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What's slowing down the AI buildout

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Re: What's slowing down the AI buildout

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I don't see how expensive energy helps us "upgrade civilization".

Its only expensive because its been regulated to death. In terms of potential energy output in a given area its tops.

It's been regulated "to death" because it's responsible for some of the worst man-made catastrophes of all time and has made large swaths of land uninhabitable for ~forever.

Move fast and break things this is not.

Re: What's slowing down the AI buildout

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Cheap ubiquitous distributed power systems will change the world in many weird ways. Watch small modular nuclear offer home installation for ~$reasonable and getting cheaper every year. Fast forward 20 years from the advent of essentially infinite energy results in WWIII and a new “Great Detente” but only after all the assholes have wreaked all the havoc they can. There are dark days ahead but ultimately a brighter f…

Why would I need “home nuclear” when I’m already self sufficient in power in the winter with 15k of solar and battery, let alone the summer.

Re: What's slowing down the AI buildout

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While that is true, if there is something worthwhile enough in a far and safe location - it won't stay that way

It’s everywhere. It’s in the shed in your backyard. Nobody knows it’s there. Lots of people have them. It’s an appliance. The worst thing an evildoer can do is blow up your own house and the few around it. and no one does that because you go to jail forever. The worst thing you can do is let it melt down, which means it quietly shuts itself down.

> The worst thing an evildoer can do is blow up your own house and the few around it.

No, they can take the isotopes out and dump it into your local water supply. Or if they're suicidal and the isotopes have been encapsulated in some sort of tamperproof system, grid the whole thing down to granulated powder using less than $20,000 of power tools (disregarding their own health and the entire nearby area, of course) and then dump it into the local water supply.

Re: What's slowing down the AI buildout

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Serious question, do you actually think that if you distribute millions of small nuclear reactors to homeowners geographically spread out around all of North America, 0.000% of them will be dangerously mentally ill, criminally reckless or inclined to terrorist like activity? Based on the frequency and number of mass shooter type incidents, (or like, David Koresh and the Branch Davidians) this would be a very naive vi…

have you never heard of tamper-proof containers? mess with it, it’s useless and you go to jail for a long time? Plus, they’re ubiquitous, you don’t know who has one, max damage is minimal even worst case — go fish!

We have microwave ovens. They’re pretty safe. Imagine something as safe as that. We can do it.

But I can’t disagree that it’s more exciting to imagine terror dreams.

Re: What's slowing down the AI buildout

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I don't see how expensive energy helps us "upgrade civilization".

Unlimited energy for 200 years is a good step, no?

It's hardly unlimited.

And not if plants can't get cooling water because of drought.

https://www.euronews.com/2026/06/25/france-takes-nuclear-rea...

Re: What's slowing down the AI buildout

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I'd like to see a well reasoned plan to install small modular nuclear power at peoples houses that prevents the mentally ill, criminally reckless or terrorist minded people from cracking them open and obtaining access to the isotopes.

There isn’t much need to extract isotopes if you have an actual working reactor, is there? Just use that as-is to cause whatever damage.

From a strictly red team threat analysis perspective, if you have an extremely safe working reactor that can't be made to melt down, no, the reactor can't be used to hurt much that is in the same location as the reactor. If you are able to get the isotopes out and start spreading them around or making a dirty bomb type thing (where the explosion just serves the purpose of throwing the isotopes around), that could be pretty catastrophic.

Re: What's slowing down the AI buildout

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Project Kilby is probably the most intelligent approach to this problem so far.

https://www.chevron.com/newsroom/2026/q2/chevron-signs-20-ye...

The idea is to bring the data centers, power generators and energy supply together in the ~same physical space so the only thing you have to transmit is data. Moving energy is way more expensive than moving information.

Re: What's slowing down the AI buildout

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While that is true, if there is something worthwhile enough in a far and safe location - it won't stay that way

It’s everywhere. It’s in the shed in your backyard. Nobody knows it’s there. Lots of people have them. It’s an appliance. The worst thing an evildoer can do is blow up your own house and the few around it. and no one does that because you go to jail forever. The worst thing you can do is let it melt down, which means it quietly shuts itself down.

You're seriously proposing that a country with regular mass-shootings should give everyone a device that can cause a radioactive meltdown or a small explosion?

Re: What's slowing down the AI buildout

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We should have been building more nuclear. We’re not going to upgrade civilization with windmills and putting on sweaters. Think of how much power we’ll need for millions of robots?

Unit economics for renewables coupled with storage are excellent. I agree we should reform nuclear regulation to allow new nuclear plants to pencil out. I disagree that we should discount the value of renewables.

Solar and wind take up a bunch of space and generate a bunch of waste after the panels are decommissioned, plus the wind generators are ruining every single landscape we have. With 5 nuclear stations per country you could cleanup so much of Europe.

Re: What's slowing down the AI buildout

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It’s everywhere. It’s in the shed in your backyard. Nobody knows it’s there. Lots of people have them. It’s an appliance. The worst thing an evildoer can do is blow up your own house and the few around it. and no one does that because you go to jail forever. The worst thing you can do is let it melt down, which means it quietly shuts itself down.

You're seriously proposing that a country with regular mass-shootings should give everyone a device that can cause a radioactive meltdown or a small explosion?

We already let people have cars and those things are crazy dangerous! No one should be allowed anything, ever, until we bubble wrap everything in the world to be perfectly safe!
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