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Re: FAANG Simulator

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Post by boredatoms »

hirvi74 wrote: post #124
azinman2 wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unless you have a family, want to travel, want an ample retirement fund, have complex health issues, etc etc.

Not entirely true. I work in "boring" State government as a programmer. I constantly see juniors starting private industry jobs at close to what I make after being with my employer for 10 years straight. However, money is not everything to me. While the salary is not truly impressive, my job has a lot of benefits. People sleep on these jobs while chasing MegaCorp clout which is cool and all, but I am just a redneck c…

Its fairly simple to do the math and see that outside faang a few mill is being left on the table every 5-10 years

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Post by nixon_why69 »

jakevoytko wrote: post #127
nixon_why69 wrote: post #121

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Is it possible that the causation is the other way? FAANG doesn't pay well because its dispiriting and toxic, its toxic because it pays well. This attracts all sorts of behavior. I mean, it paid well in the early-mid 2010s also and was way less toxic.

Out of curiosity, what has changed over time that has made it more toxic? I left Google in 2015. It certainly had its share of toxic traits, but it was at the "what place doesn't?" level.

My feeling was multiple generations of optimizing for promo packets had made the entire culture cynical at G and Amazon. It's one thing when people give lip service to the right things but sometimes the wrong things are rewarded. It hits another level when leaders are actively coaching and advocating cynicism. Throw in layoff fear on top of that and now it's a political mess.

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Post by dreamcompiler »

daemonologist wrote: post #69
MeetingsBrowser wrote: post #59

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> 85K - you can live everywhere besides the coastal US cities comfortably. This is far from true. There are plenty of expensive places to live away from the coasts

Only if you seek them out (ski resorts and such). I've lived in both of the most expensive major inland cities (Chicago and Denver) and $85k is plenty in both, even for a small family.

How long ago was this? In the last 5 years rent has increased dramatically in many of the historically LCOL cities.

Re: FAANG Simulator

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Post by wojciii »

vjvjvjvjghv wrote: post #130
jambalaya8 wrote: post #103

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I remember taking pay cuts of 35-65% for a few jobs I thought sounded more cool or less stressful when I was younger, only to find out some of my coworkers were making far more at the same place. They placed me still at or above the median wage, and I learned a lot (I never vested, and stocks weren't a factor in the jobs). In my personal experience, the jobs I have taken which paid less treated me as cheaper and more…

“ In my personal experience, the jobs I have taken which paid less treated me as cheaper and more disposable. ” That’s my experience. The more I have made in my career, the better and with more respect I got treated. As freelance I did some projects with non profit “do gooders”. They didn’t pay well and treated people horribly. On the other hand, successful companies will treat you well and pay well.

I worked for all kinds of companies. They all treated me as a disposable resource. There is no difference beyond the amount of money they pay me. This is in Scandinavia so that might be different from what you experience in your part of our world.

Re: FAANG Simulator

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Post by __turbobrew__ »

jebarker wrote: post #90
Calazon wrote: post #82

Automatic lifestyle creep with promotions? Well, it's definitely not a FIRE simulator.

Are you suggesting that everyone with FIRE aspirations avoids lifestyle creep?

I still drive a 2007 honda fit shitbox with a TC of 500k. It is possible.

Re: FAANG Simulator

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Post by lupire »

boredatoms wrote: post #141
hirvi74 wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not entirely true. I work in "boring" State government as a programmer. I constantly see juniors starting private industry jobs at close to what I make after being with my employer for 10 years straight. However, money is not everything to me. While the salary is not truly impressive, my job has a lot of benefits. People sleep on these jobs while chasing MegaCorp clout which is cool and all, but I am just a redneck c…

Its fairly simple to do the math and see that outside faang a few mill is being left on the table every 5-10 years

How much is your life worth?

Re: FAANG Simulator

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Post by Sidio »

qurren wrote: post #26

Maybe add a non-US-citizen mode where if you are ever unemployed for more than 2 cycles you lose, unless you already have a side project with enormous traction And if you are a US citizen and get randomly get thrown into a group of mostly non-citizen coworkers they will grind like hell due to the above, and if you don't grind extra hard you get the PIP faster, because you're stack ranked against them

Your second point is so bizarre. You're complaining hardworking immigrants make you look bad because you don't work as hard?

Re: FAANG Simulator

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Post by otherme123 »

georgeecollins wrote: post #18
xmprt wrote: post #14

Game seems to be heavily weighted towards building side projects. If only you could build a single side project without raising any funds and get acquired for 10M with an 80% cut...

Really? I did great just alternating between "grind" and "lay low". Retired with $4.8m at 25!

I tested just "side project", "YC" and "launch", touching grass when burnout is over 80%, ignoring anything work related, trice:

RAT RACE · ACQUIRED sold the company at 25 · walked away with $6.40M · peak burnout 82%

RAT RACE · ACQUIRED sold the company at 26 · walked away with $11.37M · peak burnout 91%

RAT RACE · ACQUIRED sold the company at 26 · walked away with $8.96M · peak burnout 95%

Trying to balance grind, touch grass and side project took me 20 years before retiring with 20'ish millions after selling a hard-worked side project.

It seems that if you ignore work and do "side project" only from first month, your networth increases with the compensation when you are fired, and if you last one year (almost all runs), you can keep "side project" indefinitely.

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