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I too found this with their previous attempts. I have my Chat personality settings stripped right down to no-fluff. I'd want voice to be more akin to the Star Trek computer, and less akin to as you said an AI friend, but previously it was tuned too personable/friend-like.

Star Trek computer voice model is something I have yet to encounter, and I've looked repeatedly :) It's not about a specific voice, it's the fact they managed to capture "I am a utility" perfectly in the voice. Our modern friends do not want to be thought of as a utility, but to engender trust and agency all of their own and that's a huge problem for me.

You can using chatterbox and a couple voice to voice models. Sorry I don’t recall the whole process but you can YouTube Star Trek computer voice AI.

Re: GPT‑Live

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Like a lot of AI things, this seems both cool and kind of creeps me out. I've never used voice interfaces in the past (siri, the google one, whatever is on my tv) so I'm probably not the target market, but this does seem like an improvement. The part that creeps me out is, we're living in an era where we're more disconnected from each other than ever before. Do we really need to be replacing conversations?! The demon…

I feel similarly. But texting became the primary form of inter-personal communication in the last couple of decades, in part because that was the primary modality technology could handle.

So, now that we can talk to computers, maybe we will feel more comfortable talking to people too? Wishful I know, but one can hope right?

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I'm no longer writing code from scratch, as I used to do before. So, very soon, it will be "AI can now do X" makes it so I can't also do X? Same with many creative works. Radio music already sounds so plastic. I lost interest in crafting my text drafts because I can just dump some ugly text and get it refined by AI.

You no longer have to grow your own food, can go to supermarket, but doesnt stop you from still doing it.

I hope that's not the future of work before UBI gets settled, because almost nobody grows their own food.

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> we know pretty well at this point that this is world warping technology (either for good or bad), not a small matter of taste. And what are you doing about it?

I professionally use it to design pharmaceutical drugs, essentially I do my best to harness the good sides of it

Not saying you aren't good at your job but this statement gives me pause. Given what I see on the daily as output from models I hope there's still a lot of human interrupt behind the wheel with respect to the design of drugs.

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> "The best feature is that it can delegate questions out to GPT-5.5 in the background, so you're no longer restricted to a voice model that's several years behind the frontier." Wow. That's exactly what I hoped they would do. This issue has held me back from using ChatGPT's voice mode as much as I otherwise would have, because I also use it for brainstorming while commuting, exercising, etc., and don't want it to fe…

Funnily enough - I built this (delegation) over the weekend with Fable for a local voice chat running 100% on local LLMs, Parakeet and Kokoro. I say "...ask the thinking model..." and that redirects it to Qwen 3.6 27B on vLLM. Can't claim originality though - it was inspired by Sesame - where their models will invoke a search, or check the weather etc, and make a vocalisation to keep you engaged. Turn taking is one o…

I did a simar thing a while back... voice interface for Hermes with Kokoro and Qwen ASR.

Re: GPT‑Live

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Gemini live has been able to do this for over a year now. I can just activate it on my phone and it really works surprisingly well, especially the interruption. I've tested it with my 95 year old Dutch grandmother and it switched seamlessly between English and Dutch with her and handled her poor hearing very well, including her asking for repetition. I'm a little surprised by how much OAI is playing catch up here.

Exactly! I've been using Gemini Live for a while now and have been able to converse quite fluently. Maybe it's the long think functionality that's a differentiator here from OAI, which I'd be surprised if Gemini doesn't come out with of their own this year.

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There's a tiktok of Sam Altman reacting to a viral clip of someone using Voice to time themselves on a mile run (it hilariously failed). Sam's reaction was "Yea, it doesn't have access to tools like a timer. It's a known issue. Should be coming in about a year" Edit: here's the clip: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Py2YgJe8fqQ

A year? Is it that hard, or do they not see the value?

A timer tool with a callback feature would take like a couple of hours to implement, a model which has a native internal ability to know the time would take ages to make

Re: GPT‑Live

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What I’m missing from this announcement is the capability to use connectors and tools. I don’t really get it - NONE of the frontier assistants can use tools / connectors while in voice mode - Claude, ChatGPT, Gemini, Grok. It seems so obvious: I want to be able to research stuff, pull up documents, jot down notes and do productive work while I’m talking to it, and not end voice mode whenever I need to connect to an a…

Funny enough I have only encountered two voice modes that were okay to use tools and they are so far out there that you wouldn't even think to try. Bixby and Perplexity (in android phone digital assistant mode) both seem happy to use whatever the account is connected to. I mainly use it for managing my local phone's calendar. Claude chat can interact with it but voice can't which is frustrating.

Re: GPT‑Live

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This is the opposite direction AI should be going. Human relationships are the most valuable thing we have, and so, naturally, technology seeks to intermediate and now replace them. I'm not Catholic, but this podcast presents a very interesting argument against talking to AI as if they were human: https://newpolity.com/podcasts-hub/debate-chatbots

Hopefuly I see conscious young people in my surroundings who refrain from using human like AI (voice). They say "it is cringe".

Moreover I think aggresive robocalls and advertising will derail the entire trend in a few years, people will become tired of fake talk.

Re: GPT‑Live

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honestly its not that big of a deal, being able to call tools is the high order bit

It rubs me the wrong way that someone would respond to something I need with 0 context just to tell me it's not a big deal. Some people have standards in what they build.

ok sorry - can you explain more why it'd be a game changer to stream the tool call. Whats an example tool call that this would help with. Most of the time the tools I want called are at the end of the conversation (i.e. "summarize what we talked about and email it to me"). Or if its in the middle of the conversation, we can just carry on the conversation while the tool call is happenning in parallel..
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