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Re: GPT‑Live

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Post by anon-3988 »

jamilton wrote: post #425
anon-3988 wrote: post #407

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> I think this tech is far more important for lonely people who for any reason don't get to socialize much (if at all), this is especially common in older people. Uhm, those lonely people need to get out and start talking. How is this going to help society? This is going to make it worse. Oh that kid is kinda quite and sad? Throw him an iPad. Oh that adult is kinda bored and wandering aimlessly? Throw him into a casi…

>Uhm, those lonely people need to get out and start talking. Great, what is being done to help that happen?

Unironically just "man up". I get that there are some people that have actual sickness that prevents them from socializing but your little anxiety does not count. Believe me, I know I have the same problem. I quite literally had no friends for almost 7 years or after highschool. Society can't afford to babysit a 30 years old man that have anxiety and doesn't want to put any effort. My parent had to call me to check if I am alive, and even then, I don't feel like talking to them after months of no talking. I had zero interest to form any kind of relationship. That feeling that you have when you are feeling like "I would rather just order Uber", yea, you need to OVERCOME that. That is the effort. Ruminating, thinking and fantasizing about what "could have been" does not count.

Even if all I am saying is bullshit, "what is being done to help"? What about what is being done to make it way, way, way, way, way worse. If I had LLM companionship when I was alone, yea, I would have never gotten out of my shell. I would be stuck in there forever. Hell, why should I even talk to you? I should just argue with a robot instead.

Re: GPT‑Live

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Post by shostack »

solarkraft wrote: post #256
simonw wrote: post #19

I had preview access to this one for a few weeks. It's very good. I had one conversation that lasted a full hour while I was walking the dog, got some good brainstorming done against one of my projects. The best feature is that it can delegate questions out to GPT-5.5 in the background, so you're no longer restricted to a voice model that's several years behind the frontier. I did report a fun bug with it though: it…

I love the UX of voice mode. I’ve always hated voice models. Gemini’s being particularly egregious (always ending in some deranged question, can not reliably be prompted away) prompted me to build my own client for my real harness that simply does STT -> model -> TTS (both being independently useful). I guess I see some value in a model responding quickly and with more nuance, but it’s not much. I can wait for it to…

I have built out something similar that let's me use my phone's hardware buttons to open an input stream with the mic for my Hermes agent over my matrix gateway and then has it play back with a local TTS model on my Pixel 10 Pro.

But the Deepseek v4 flash model I am using through OpenRouter is killing me on latency. Any suggestions to improve that?

Re: GPT‑Live

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Post by breezybottom »

jamilton wrote: post #425
anon-3988 wrote: post #407

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> I think this tech is far more important for lonely people who for any reason don't get to socialize much (if at all), this is especially common in older people. Uhm, those lonely people need to get out and start talking. How is this going to help society? This is going to make it worse. Oh that kid is kinda quite and sad? Throw him an iPad. Oh that adult is kinda bored and wandering aimlessly? Throw him into a casi…

>Uhm, those lonely people need to get out and start talking. Great, what is being done to help that happen?

AI girlfriends, apparently.

Re: GPT‑Live

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Post by alooPotato »

BoorishBears wrote: post #340
athyuttamre wrote: post #328

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In ChatGPT, Voice doesn't yet support connectors, but we're hoping to add support soon! Once GPT-Live launches in the API, you can also build custom integrations yourself.

Do integrations supporting streaming input? One big gap I've run into for UX is most realtime voice harnesses wait for a full response from tools, and at most support the model filling the dead air until then It'd be a game-changer to be able to have the model start replying with partial information streamed from the tool call, then seamlessly continue with additional information.

honestly its not that big of a deal, being able to call tools is the high order bit

Re: GPT‑Live

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Post by breezybottom »

spongebobstoes wrote: post #389
overgard wrote: post #330

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In a personal context, you're not hindered from doing those things, so you're correct in that regard. The problem is economic and social. The AI is mediocre enough to drive the value of those things way down; possibly to zero. When something isn't valuable, people are less likely to learn it, and in the future it's less likely that anyone will actually have those skills. For example, we've slopped many illustrators o…

"starving artist" is not a new concept AI doesn't stop creative people from creating. it gives creative people an additional tool with which to create

Then why is it only the least creative people who use it?

Re: GPT‑Live

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Post by breezybottom »

enraged_camel wrote: post #234
johnfn wrote: post #125

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This is such a poor mischaracterization of OP that I actually started agreeing with OP more.

It's also hilariously wrong. It essentially argues, implicitly, that those who don't communicate with other humans are missing out on the "most important thing in life" and cannot form a self-identity.

Yes? That's completely true.

Re: GPT‑Live

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Post by zkmon »

motoxpro wrote: post #277
zkmon wrote: post #174

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I'm no longer writing code from scratch, as I used to do before. So, very soon, it will be "AI can now do X" makes it so I can't also do X? Same with many creative works. Radio music already sounds so plastic. I lost interest in crafting my text drafts because I can just dump some ugly text and get it refined by AI.

I'm confused. It feels like you are saying you did those things as a means to an end. Like saying I no longer walk because I can drive. I no longer cook because Doordash exists. I no longer play piano because midi exists. I mean i guess, but it seems like you didn't LIKE crafting the text or coding from scratch, you just wanted the outcome. If we are talking purely about work, I understand that its about being produc…

The human-ness is not about outcomes only. It is about doing things, thinking, achieving, socializing, sharing, bonding, feeling happy about what you did, using senses for what they evolved fir, recognizing and responding to body signals and being a biological creature. A lot of these is affected by AI.

Re: GPT‑Live

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Post by BoorishBears »

alooPotato wrote: post #434
BoorishBears wrote: post #340

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Do integrations supporting streaming input? One big gap I've run into for UX is most realtime voice harnesses wait for a full response from tools, and at most support the model filling the dead air until then It'd be a game-changer to be able to have the model start replying with partial information streamed from the tool call, then seamlessly continue with additional information.

honestly its not that big of a deal, being able to call tools is the high order bit

It rubs me the wrong way that someone would respond to something I need with 0 context just to tell me it's not a big deal.

Some people have standards in what they build.

Re: GPT‑Live

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Post by zkmon »

supern0va wrote: post #272
zkmon wrote: post #97

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Most of what AI does is already in wrong direction. Not just human-to-human interaction, it took away thinking, creative work, sensory perception (glasses) and responses. People call it as helping humans, but I call it as sucking away the "human-ness" from humans. After the damage is done, the mega corps would simply shrug and will say "Well, we were just responding to our business competition" The business knows no…

Counter-point: I love that my rubber duck can talk (quack?) back, as well as record and summarize my thoughts on topics I'm working or stuck on. I've wanted a good voice mode for precisely this reason. When I take my dog on a walk and I'm thinking about a bunch of problems/ideas, I'd love to have feedback and a record, or perhaps to even kick off research or ask questions to fill in gaps that would otherwise have me…

You want to be a child forever, amazed by your toys or the new things you can do. The toys won't let you grow up and become a normal human. You don't need take a dog for a walk, if you live in a normal place that allows dogs to roam freely. And you don't need to think about a "bunch of problems/ideas". Your mind is a servant of your body. And your body never asked you for that.

Re: GPT‑Live

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Post by atonse »

atonse wrote: post #62
artdigital wrote: post #25

What I’m missing from this announcement is the capability to use connectors and tools. I don’t really get it - NONE of the frontier assistants can use tools / connectors while in voice mode - Claude, ChatGPT, Gemini, Grok. It seems so obvious: I want to be able to research stuff, pull up documents, jot down notes and do productive work while I’m talking to it, and not end voice mode whenever I need to connect to an a…

I’ve been using gpt-realtime-1 for my personal assistant that runs my company and plans my day. And it works pretty well, even makes tool calls and all that. But the multi modal stuff has resulted in a lot of debugging with weird events and message and audio sequences having race conditions, but overall it is pretty awesome. Looking forward to moving to this model later today and will chime back in with results.

Unfortunately, it isn't available on the API yet! Can't wait!
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