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Re: Grok 4.5

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People give them money because of the moral stance. They are either actively fine with the CSAM or just don't care.

Give me an alternative that isn’t trying to shove left wing ideology down my throat and I’ll use that. So far, only xAI makes any attempt to be neutral in its answers.

Grok is many things but it is not "neutral". https://www.economist.com/briefing/2026/06/25/ai-models-valu...

Re: Grok 4.5

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Can someone breakdown to me how this makes any sort of economical sense? Spending billions and billions to have the 3rd best model while even the number 1 and 2 players already seem to struggle making a profit. What am I missing here? Not trying to go full Ed Zitron but this doesn’t make sense to me.

Anthropic is already profitable, economics is no longer an issue as they have found PMF in enterprise software market. You might need to update your views. https://www.wsj.com/tech/ai/mind-blowing-growth-is-about-to-...

They might be profitable for the exact two months SpaceX is giving them billions worth of free compute doesn’t seem convincing to me.

Re: Grok 4.5

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Studies on political bias in models consistently show that LLMs lean politically left. The only outlier is grok which leans right but by a smaller factor, according to this study for instance: https://arxiv.org/abs/2603.23841 Edit: adding some other studies that are easily retrievable with a quick search for those unsatisfied with the first one - https://arxiv.org/abs/2606.12922 https://arxiv.org/abs/2412.16746 Claim…

Reality has a well-known liberal bias.

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Re: Grok 4.5

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How's this going with the rest of the models?

My immediate thought as well. Every other AI platform has very left leaning guardrails installed. Grok is the only AI platform that has been shown to be center leaning.

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Re: Grok 4.5

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It's simple. Elon's top priority now is "killing the woke mind virus" at any cost, and his Nazi AI is a key tool for that. As long as twitter users take Grok at face value, and spread its talking points all over, it's worth it to him. It doesn't matter if it doesn't make economical sense, it only matters that Elon Musk personally wants to keep it going.

I don't want to go into it, because I agree that Elon is a very disturbing person, and there's clear evidence that Grok's harness attempts to bias towards his views. However, Grok also seems to come out consistently as the most balanced of the chat-based LLMs... So I'm not sure how to reconcile that.. maybe that's in line with "free speech absolutism", and if so, that's something I can get behind.

How does it seem to be more balanced? I haven’t seen the numbers

Re: Grok 4.5

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Anthropic is already profitable, economics is no longer an issue as they have found PMF in enterprise software market. You might need to update your views. https://www.wsj.com/tech/ai/mind-blowing-growth-is-about-to-...

Having a profitable quarter in which they were given an undisclosed discount on compute only in that quarter does not necessarily mean “Anthropic is Profitable.” It doesn’t mean they’re not, either. Even the breathless article about their first profitable quarter, (which, frankly, read more like a press release,) mentioned in passing that it’s “not clear” if it’s sustainable because their compute expenses are likely…

Read the latest semianalysis article.

Anthropic is definitely profitable now, in fact, they’re crushing it.

Re: Grok 4.5

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Not wanting to be affiliated with Elon Musk or his business enterprises is not "derangement."

It's deranged to believe correctly naming something is "affiliation".

Elon is known for purposefully not naming people correctly…
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