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Chatto is now open source

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Post by customguy »

sneak wrote: post #116
zetanor wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nobody is prohibiting you from using modified AGPL software to run your business.

That’s simply not true, and you know it. Violating my privacy with a EULA is the issue there. It’s ok to put a EULA on software, but to pretend it’s still free software is the dishonest part.

Please don't take this as a personal dig because it's not meant that way, but this has such berating a girl for not being into you energy. You want something from them, and they just want you to go away, basically. You offer nothing they want, you want what they have.

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Post by janpio »

Bolwin wrote: post #179
mertbio wrote: post #9

I’ve known Hendrik for years, and he is one of the most talented developers I’ve ever met. I’m confident this project will become successful very quickly. Beyond the project itself, what fascinates me most is how he single-handedly developed it by leveraging agentic coding.

Has he made anything else interesting?

20 or so years ago him and czottmann wrote a nice little wiki software that I used, WakkaWiki. Following him/them and their work ever since. Crazy.

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Post by itsamario »

nine_k wrote: post #79
jacobgold wrote: post #68

The fundamental problem with replacing Slack is network effects. Your coworkers and customers already use Slack. It works well enough. You can choose to switch your company away, maybe, but what do you do when vendors want to connect over Slack? Imagine if email was owned by a company? Edit: W̶e̶ ̶r̶e̶a̶l̶l̶y̶ ̶n̶e̶e̶d̶ ̶a̶n̶ ̶o̶p̶e̶n̶ ̶p̶r̶o̶t̶o̶c̶o̶l̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶b̶u̶i̶l̶d̶ ̶o̶n̶.̶ We really need an open protocol to win…

But the point here is that you don't want the network effects. You want a chat server for people you know and explicitly invite, for a specific purpose, under your control. Maybe you want the data to never leave your colocated box and your VPN, and your server to have no public presence at all. There are things that Slack cannot easily offer.

Isn't this irc?

Just need a client app to make it look like something else.

Like slack did.

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Post by angry_octet »

duttish wrote: post #155
anonym29 wrote: post #140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Employers may not be the target audience.

I wouldn't know. With the post mentioning teams and slack I just got the feeling it was on the cards, so I thought it was worth posting that in case it hadn't occurred to them.

Lots of non-work organisations use tools like Slack.

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Post by OtomotO »

bluerooibos wrote: post #144
ori_b wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not interested supporting in anyone who is willing to build on stolen property just so that we can accelerate enshittification and damage the environment. When the AI companies pay artists for their training material, stop building gas pipelines directly to data centers, and work on putting UBI in place before they try to replace all white collar labour, it may be worth revisiting. There's a reason that believing…

Would you say copying and finding solutions on Stackoverflow is building on stolen property? I'm no fan of AI companies, but I fail to see how people using it to build open-source software is a bad thing.

Depends on whether the answer o. Stackoverflow was given willingly or at gunpoint ^^

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Post by antoniojtorres »

moeffju wrote: post #174
beart wrote: post #136

What would be really awesome is some sort of feature where, once self hosted, I can generate a package or link that will download + install + pre-configure the login. Basically a bespoke installer/setup script. that can be linked to a particular person. The goal being to make onboarding as frictionless as possible. This could have some security implications maybe (the link is shared by mistake), but for a small self-…

What would you expect that to do beyond a "here's a link to the instance, sign up there"? You can combine it with Discord-like roles and gate channel visibility and rights on that, so even if someone else would sign up you just wouldn't give them the "in-group" role for example. Are you thinking of an "invitation" type link with a one time token or something?

I’m wondering too, the closest thing I can think of is maybe Zoom? It goes from link to opening your meeting *relatively* smoothly when the client needs to be installed.

Re: Chatto is now open source

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Post by bigwhite »

I'd like to know compared to Mattermost, what are the advantages and disadvantages of Chatter?

btw, I'm very happy to see that the Chatter backend is implemented in Go. Go is very good at these.

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