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Re: Chatto is now open source

#172

A thought if you want to sell to companies, "with per-user keys that get shredded when a user decides to delete their account." You'll need soft delete, work messages belong to the employer and not the user.

I would guess that in these cases you would just not allow users to self-delete their accounts? But for most users and providers of Chatto I think automatic right-to-deletion compliance sounds nice :)

Re: Chatto is now open source

#173

How does it differ to Zulip?

Or matrix

I've been trying to use Matrix for years and I still hate it at least half the time, it feels clunky, slow, cumbersome to use, the clients are hit and miss quality, and people (including myself) keep losing keys or identities for random silly reasons.

Compared to that, Chatto is just easy, nice, and FAST. It's a chat that I actually do like to use - I don't think the landing page is over promising there :)

Re: Chatto is now open source

#174
post #136

What would be really awesome is some sort of feature where, once self hosted, I can generate a package or link that will download + install + pre-configure the login. Basically a bespoke installer/setup script. that can be linked to a particular person. The goal being to make onboarding as frictionless as possible. This could have some security implications maybe (the link is shared by mistake), but for a small self-…

What would you expect that to do beyond a "here's a link to the instance, sign up there"? You can combine it with Discord-like roles and gate channel visibility and rights on that, so even if someone else would sign up you just wouldn't give them the "in-group" role for example. Are you thinking of an "invitation" type link with a one time token or something?

Re: Chatto is now open source

#175
post #57

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> But I read here every day that agents can't code. And that "real developers" spend more time fixing AI bugs than producing code, and it slows them down. This is all correct, though. I haven't tried this, but I can guarantee it's a buggy, incoherent mess, same as every other vibe coded app I've ever tried, no exceptions.

Yeah, the crap I vibe coded is buggy as hell too. It takes a lot of tokens and time to polish my agentic turds.

Better learn to plumb bro

Re: Chatto is now open source

#176

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are you ok? what do you need constant updates for on a self hosted chat server/client? it already looks like it has most of the features

Bug fixes and security patches, for one.

Fix it yourself.

Re: Chatto is now open source

#177

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Are you sure you read that here? I came back yesterday after a hiatus and I’ve been dismayed how many posts are just “yeah, I just run Claude all day” without a hint of embarrassment or shame.

Yes. Every day. Look at the replies for crying out loud. Including yours.

Why should anyone be embarrassed? You should be embarrassed that you think you are morally superior for not using Claude. Let me guess, you don't own a tv either? So cool.

Claude is regularly finding bugs and security issues people like you slop coded into widely used tools.

Re: Chatto is now open source

#178

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Bug fixes and security patches, for one.

Fix it yourself.

Why would I do that? I'm not a domain expert in chat apps, and I've already got my own projects and software to fix. If I'm going to take on the maintenance of some chat app, why wouldn't I just build the whole ass thing myself from the beginning? Or, more prudently, why wouldn't I just skip over this one and find a chat app that's got a track record of continuing support so I don't give myself a headache down the road?

Re: Chatto is now open source

#179
post #9

I’ve known Hendrik for years, and he is one of the most talented developers I’ve ever met. I’m confident this project will become successful very quickly. Beyond the project itself, what fascinates me most is how he single-handedly developed it by leveraging agentic coding.

Has he made anything else interesting?

Re: Chatto is now open source

#180
I don't want graphics in my chat. I don't want formatting in my chat. I don't want to see my co-workers pictures in my chat. I don't want this "modern-individual-but-non-the-less-same-y-looking" html and css driven "custom" UI that every of these apps has. I don't want emoji in my chat. I don't want all this other enshitification crap.

Essentially, i just want something like IRC, but without the netsplit and a modern stack. It would be so much nicer for company chat and brighten up my work days.

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