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Chatto is now open source

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> And it’s really good hosting! Chatto Cloud is launching with fully European and European-owned infrastructure, with more regions slated for launch in early 2027 With chat control that may not be so great…

Is e2e encryption supported?

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#124

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>he single-handedly developed it by leveraging agentic coding so, unmaintained in a year because the sole developer got bored/didn't make money from it/burned out ? Great, I'll run my entire company on it!

are you ok? what do you need constant updates for on a self hosted chat server/client? it already looks like it has most of the features

Bug fixes and security patches, for one.

Re: Chatto is now open source

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post #121

> And it’s really good hosting! Chatto Cloud is launching with fully European and European-owned infrastructure, with more regions slated for launch in early 2027 With chat control that may not be so great…

Is e2e encryption supported?

I thought the point of chat control was to give the eu a back door even in e2e?

Re: Chatto is now open source

#127
A thought if you want to sell to companies, "with per-user keys that get shredded when a user decides to delete their account."

You'll need soft delete, work messages belong to the employer and not the user.

Re: Chatto is now open source

#128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>he single-handedly developed it by leveraging agentic coding so, unmaintained in a year because the sole developer got bored/didn't make money from it/burned out ? Great, I'll run my entire company on it!

are you ok? what do you need constant updates for on a self hosted chat server/client? it already looks like it has most of the features

"why would you need features on the thing on which the vast majority of your company's interactions and unofficial note keeping and knowledge building is happening" is a fun question to ask, when the project in question doesn't have bot actions or webhooks.

Re: Chatto is now open source

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post #103

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Backend under AGPL prevents someone hosting it as a service. AGPL specifies that hosting _is_ distribution. Therefore, anyone hosting it must do so with public code. This provides a soft form of exclusivity to run their own Cloud. A frontend, permitting customizability, white-labeling, and so on, makes more sense to be more permissive. Grafana is a solid example to illustrate why. Moved from Apache to AGPLv3 in 2021…

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You receive permission to use and modify a piece of software under conditions set by the creator. It is a license, not a gift. If you don’t like the conditions, use something else or create your own thing.

I will never understand these complaints. Not only do you want stuff for free, you also want to impose your preferred usage conditions on the creator. Where does this entitlement come from?

Re: Chatto is now open source

#130

The fundamental problem with replacing Slack is network effects. Your coworkers and customers already use Slack. It works well enough. You can choose to switch your company away, maybe, but what do you do when vendors want to connect over Slack? Imagine if email was owned by a company? Edit: W̶e̶ ̶r̶e̶a̶l̶l̶y̶ ̶n̶e̶e̶d̶ ̶a̶n̶ ̶o̶p̶e̶n̶ ̶p̶r̶o̶t̶o̶c̶o̶l̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶b̶u̶i̶l̶d̶ ̶o̶n̶.̶ We really need an open protocol to win…

Matrix exists. I wrote this for my own notes: https://docs.zeropolis.net/doku.php/tech:tuwunel

Self hosted voice/video/chatroom server with RBAC, federation capabilities and encryption.

Different topic, who uses federated slack?

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