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Re: l: A new runtime for k and q

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Post by Hugsbox »

pillmillipedes wrote: post #88
AUnterrainer wrote: post #84

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Maybe because people focus on what's important rather than a fancy website? How many startups can't offer more than a fancy website. Warren Buffet, one of the greatest investors of all time has barely a website.

have you seen the website for the latest version of k? "barely a website" doesn't even begin to describe it https://k.nyc

I think it's fantastic. Nice, simplistic, loads quickly, no ads, great letter.

I don't necessarily like that it lacks a dark mode, but ultimately there's very little to complain about here. It accomplishes what many other websites only wish they could.

Re: l: A new runtime for k and q

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Post by jloveless »

mctwo wrote: post #112

These languages are very niche, isn't it? Unless you are interested in getting a job with specific companies, I don't see why you would learn them.

More niche than many yes - but there’s something about learning an array language that changes how you look at programming in general. And for the better. Of course, the places where these things are used are generally very well paying positions. They tend to be areas with a very high amount of data that is incredibly valuable.

Re: l: A new runtime for k and q

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Post by itishappy »

dragonwriter wrote: post #89
itishappy wrote: post #60

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It's a strong signal of unknown quality. Caveat emptor. Closed-source makes that extra difficult. We are used to this, hence why folks here point it out.

“It's a strong signal of unknown quality.” Unknown quality is the absence of information, you can’t have a signal for it. If you are using “unknown” as a euphemism for “poor”, which is the most obvious thing that makes the signal meaningful in the direction that seems apparent from context, why? .

I explicitly do not mean "poor," that's why I choose "unknown." A better word would have been "variable." The point I intend to convey is that you need to use other signals to judge.

That's also why "closed-source" was mentioned in the same sentence. Two missing signals.

That's also why the author keeps pointing to the benchmarks and test suite, which is the signal they'd like us to judge by. Seems entirely reasonable to me!

Re: l: A new runtime for k and q

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Post by veqq »

jloveless wrote: post #55
lioeters wrote: post #50

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Fair enough. Without seeing the code itself, one can only judge the book by its cover. I'm interested, but maybe not quite the target audience.

Unfortunately the code itself is in a style of C many find difficult to read. I blame my upbringing. ATW open sourced examples and it was not really helpful. More recently others are doing a step by step in more standard C https://github.com/ardentsia-cgs/kparser/

Many of us can read atw C and would love to investigate!

Re: l: A new runtime for k and q

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Post by veqq »

lioeters wrote: post #102
vessenes wrote: post #94

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Yes, yes I did. As penance, I will post Whitney’s sudoku solver in k: x@&/x?/:/:(+;!9;/:x)

Why did I have to see this mysterious and intriguing code in the morning, now my brain won't rest until I learn what every symbol means and how it works. Thanks for sharing!

https://nsl.com/papers/denial.html
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