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Apple to increase spend with Broadcom to produce billions more U.S. chips

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Re: Apple to increase spend with Broadcom to produce billions more U.S. chips

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30B investment for "hundreds" of US jobs seems like a weird number to brag about

That merely hundreds of people can make a $30B investment return Apple/Broadcom-level profit margins is amazing . This is what technology does: More output for less labor input.

It could also be some token "new jobs" to get some other benefits elsewhere? It's not like these deals would be unexpected from the current administration.

Re: Apple to increase spend with Broadcom to produce billions more U.S. chips

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Nuking international students and then making it so they can't stay after getting degrees here is one huge issue: https://www.piie.com/publications/policy-briefs/2026/class-d...

a huge amount of American graduated aren't able to find work after graduation with a significant number of jobs going to foreigners. that seems problematic to me we should be putting Americans first not importing people to do the job they spent years training for.

There's an odd idea that increasing the number of educated people in the country makes it harder to find jobs. Where is it easiest to find software jobs? Probably san francisco. You'd think it'd be easiest in some small town in idaho where you'd be the only software developer, right? You'd have no competition! But instead it's the easiest where all the other software developers are. The causation is two-way. Software developers go to san francisco because that's where jobs are, and companies start in san francisco because that's where software developers are.

That's agglomeration effects, and it disproves the idea on its own. If america is the place where all the talented engineers and scientists go, that is a very very good thing for engineers and scientists in america. Or you are free to go try to be an engineer or scientist in estonia, and see if you make more money due to the lack of competition. (Most top engineering and science talent in estonia leaves for other countries, which by your logic should be amazing for the remaining domestic talent.)

Re: Apple to increase spend with Broadcom to produce billions more U.S. chips

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Sure, steel is important to keep in a country for many reasons. It doesn't mean tariffs are the most effective way to meet that goal.

> It doesn't mean tariffs are the most effective way to meet that goal. What is a more "effective way to meet that goal"?

Seems like subsidies for local steel producers would be better, then you're just paying the difference in cost for the level of capacity you want to keep local, versus distorting all steel consumption in the country.

Re: Apple to increase spend with Broadcom to produce billions more U.S. chips

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It’s foolish to be completely dependent on anyone else, no matter how stable the CURRENT situation is. We’ve seen this with the gulf countries and Strait of Hormuz, China with rare earth metals, Ukraine with grains, etc. Once China goes to take Taiwan all bets are off…

We are dependent on H1b workers

If US educational policy says don’t educate the people because we have H1B, then that’s a total dependence and is foolish. If instead, you welcome smart talented people from all around the world then that’s a winning strategy. It’s up to those host countries to offer more so as to avoid a brain drain.

Re: Apple to increase spend with Broadcom to produce billions more U.S. chips

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Every time I trust my memory it betrays me.

I treat my technical memories in discussions like the Russian proverb Reagan popularized in the disarmament negotiations with the Soviets. доверяй, но проверяй “Trust, but verify.” Meta: Yes, I did a quick search to verify some of this before replying.

Very good. Sometimes I‘m too impatient.

Re: Apple to increase spend with Broadcom to produce billions more U.S. chips

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post #50

Why is it "spend" and not "spending"?

MBA dorks do dumb things to language for no good reason, creating unnecessary jargon. Even dumber people around them hear them use it, and misunderstand the specifics of how it was used and the context that made it sort-of be reasonable (this step optional—often there was no reason or need for the new word or usage whatsoever, in the first place) and start using it all over for things they already had accurate and correct words for because they think it sounds cool or like they're "in the know", I guess. English suffers, while they grin and drool their way up the "org chart".

Business English is a curse on the tongue.

Re: Apple to increase spend with Broadcom to produce billions more U.S. chips

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China is not a good trading partner at all. They put up barriers for companies entering their market, mandatory China employee in your company, IP theft, they subsidize and flood the market killing competition, most everything they make is lowest quality possible, lots of fraud even within China.

This just reads as sour grapes when countries don't want to deal with bad trades from Western corporations that mostly focus on extracting local populaces while inflicting as much damage to possible toward local labor groups. Can't really be shocked when nation states enact laws to protect industries + workers.

to be fair, nobody said they were shocked. just that they were a bad trading partner.

Re: Apple to increase spend with Broadcom to produce billions more U.S. chips

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Japan in the 1990s, ME sovereign wealth funds in the late 2000s, China in the mid 2010s.

The original post specifically wrote: "new construction". As I understand, those investment waves were mostly buying existing assets, not building new ones. From your examples, do you have examples of significant new construction? I do not. When I think of foreign investment to build things in the US, I mostly think about German/Korean/Japanese auto manufs and Korean/Taiwanese semiconductor manufs. Most people don't…

I know what I said. Lots of foreign money backed construction loans got wiped out. The buildings are still there, the project went bankrupt, and the world kept turning.

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Small note of clarification. HF in a radio frequency (RF) context actually refers to what we would now consider fairly low frequencies between 3 and 30mhz where wavelengths are in the tens of meters. The black magic is mostly in UHF AND microwave regions where wavelengths start to measure closer to the size of circuit elements. Although I have also heard it said “RF physics is black magic” to cover all the bases

Yes, radio found out naming is hard before software did, in very old times there was High Frequency (HF), but then circuits got fast enough to go higher, oops, ok no problem, let's call the new frequencies Very High Frequency (VHF) whew that was close, but wait they got even faster! Ugh! Ok let's call the new frequencies Ultra High Frequency (UHF), but wait, we're still not in the Ghz range yet! Thankfully they did n…

So you've heard of USB?

Re: Apple to increase spend with Broadcom to produce billions more U.S. chips

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I'm curious why you think China will decline or be eliminated, I always thought that China was a reliable as a production/trading partner and that they planned for decades ahead with programs like Belt and Road Initiative unlike western politics that only looks as far as the next election. Very open to correction on this though, thinking about it not sure what formed my opinion on this.

The Belt and Road initiative is a nice try, but it's not a roaring success. The flaws of democracies are easy to see because of the openness, and whatever goes wrong usually do so over a long time. Dictatorships go wrong in more dramatic ways.

China run by engineers, America run by lawyers and you can still have a career in China as a merchant marine.
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