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GPT-5.6 Sol, along with Terra and Luna, will launch publicly this Thursday

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Re: GPT-5.6 Sol, along with Terra and Luna, will launch publicly this Thursday

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Post by satvikpendem »

incrudible wrote: post #170
satvikpendem wrote: post #140

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One can be multiple things. That you find it demeaning is your personal opinion and frankly is more a reflection on yourself. There are many like Casey Muratori that are competent engineers as well as YouTubers.

Casey (on his channels) does not do the clickbait thing, which makes all the difference. You can either maintain integrity and credibility or you can make brainrot shockface “it is over” content. There is no middle ground. Maybe you are desensitized to it, but I have a carefully curated YouTube and I know that it can be a completely different platform experience if you reject with prejudice any such content.

Use DeArrow if you're so sensitive to it. And like I said, it is necessary if YouTube is also a money making endeavor. Casey likely makes little from his videos so he doesn't need to have clickbait thumbnails.

Re: GPT-5.6 Sol, along with Terra and Luna, will launch publicly this Thursday

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Post by steve_adams_86 »

satvikpendem wrote: post #82
steve_adams_86 wrote: post #64

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He's clearly very knowledgeable about some things, but I think he has harmed his credibility be becoming a 'tuber who prioritizes thumbnails and hot takes over engineering.

Not really. If you're a YouTuber it's necessary to follow the algorithm which includes making such a YouTuber face, clickbait actually works and has a direct financial correlation as Linus Tech Tips has shown.

That’s fine, but I trust him to play the YouTube game as a result, not as an engineer.

Re: GPT-5.6 Sol, along with Terra and Luna, will launch publicly this Thursday

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Post by avereveard »

bredren wrote: post #44
avereveard wrote: post #31

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Same. For some reason late opus model are very superficial doing ux work and so am using gpt for that, but backend is much better engineered by claude, gpt prefer to duplicate everything it needs on the spot causing class sprawl

How are y'all carrying context history from one agent to the other? I also flip between the models due to quota, TUI enhancements, model updates and service availability. To handle this, I built a thing that normalizes your transcripts between Claude Code and Codex into a shared DB, then a CLI and skill. It has made it so it doesn't matter what I built where (or when) I just refer to the work and drop in a /total-rec…

steering:

You are the sole owner of the project implementation.

User maintained documentation:

- goals.md for the project overall goals

- tech.md for guidance on how to build the project

Agent maintained documentation, current state living specs, these are not logs:

- project.md is a map of the code, components and features.

- choices.md write here all decision taken by the user.

Do not duplicate information between these document.

Re: GPT-5.6 Sol, along with Terra and Luna, will launch publicly this Thursday

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Post by behnamoh »

andy12_ wrote: post #78
behnamoh wrote: post #73

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how do you know gpt-5.5-pro is an ensemble? if it is, then how did OpenAI do it? why no other company has been able to pull it off?

It's pretty much confirmed by OpenAI here [1]. > We generally treat GPT-5.5’s safety results as strong proxies for GPT-5.5 Pro, which is the same underlying model using a setting that makes use of parallel test time compute. And Gemini also provides something similar. Gemini Deep Think models are pretty much the same thing [2]. As to why no other company uses this, I don't really know. Maybe compute constraints? [1]…

Interesting, but how do they "combine" the results of all those parallel agents? How do they know which parts of each agent response is signal vs noise?

Re: GPT-5.6 Sol, along with Terra and Luna, will launch publicly this Thursday

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Post by rane »

behnamoh wrote: post #57
reassess_blind wrote: post #6

I’m bouncing back between Codex and Claude like a ping-pong ball. I much prefer the experience using Codex, less verbose and to-the-point I’ve found. But Fable, being as strong as it is, is a big draw for Claude right now. I’ll likely switch back to Codex if 5.6 Sol is comparable.

How? I'm pretty much locked into Claude Code and even if gpt models are good now, the experience with codex CLI has been so bad I won't go back to it. e.g., it still doesn't have /revise or /undo!

Try https://github.com/raine/claude-code-proxy

I canceled Claude plan a few months back and have been using this. OpenAI plans are much more generous.

Re: GPT-5.6 Sol, along with Terra and Luna, will launch publicly this Thursday

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Post by vorticalbox »

jychang wrote: post #27
laurels-marts wrote: post #12

Damn this is exciting. I love that gpt models are much faster, efficient and cheaper than Claude models. They are so fast even on high/xhigh that I don’t find myself using the parallel agent setup anymore much since its cognitively less demanding to just follow along what the model is doing and most tasks it will complete in <5-<10mins anyway.

This is because GPT-5.6 is just a more posttrained version of GPT-5.5, not a bigger model than GPT-5.5. It's not like how Mythos is bigger than Opus. GPT-5.6 --------> GPT-5.6 Sol GPT-5.6-mini ---> GPT-5.6 Terra GPT-5.6-nano ---> GPT-5.6 Luna Two important things to note, if you want to verify what I say/correct me: GPT-5.6 Terra actually scores worse than GPT-5.5 on many benchmarks. It's not GPT-5.5 trained with mor…

do we know that Mythos is in fact a bigger model then opus?

Re: GPT-5.6 Sol, along with Terra and Luna, will launch publicly this Thursday

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Post by scotty79 »

Havoc wrote: post #47
bashtoni wrote: post #17

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I feel like listening to Theo about anything technical is like consulting a Labrador retriever for advice on quantum physics. Every time I've ever seen one of his videos it's pretty clear he has very little understanding of development or engineering. I first became aware of him from his early "unit tests are a waste of time" stuff, and it seems his skillset is building a personal brand. Fair play, he's clearly talen…

And half his videos are him coming up with indirect ways of saying look how amazing I am.

It's curious how so many people get triggered by a smart person saying what he believes to be true. Yes, he is pretty amazing. Yes, he is rarely wrong. No, it doesn't affect you or me in any way because he is not in competition with you. Go do something else if you don't enjoy his takes.

I don't get many programmer influencers in my feed that deal with newsworthy relevant stuff. Theo is the least wrong and most humble one in my perception.

Re: GPT-5.6 Sol, along with Terra and Luna, will launch publicly this Thursday

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Post by scotty79 »

bashtoni wrote: post #49
ttoinou wrote: post #39

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There is a whole religion about tests that is worth attacking though

Sure. If his take was "100% unit test coverage is a waste of time" I think that's not unreasonable. You could make a case that the "you must write tests before you write code, every single time!" stuff is needlessly dogmatic. I also think that sometimes people focus too much on unit tests to the detriment of end to end tests that better model actual system interactions. None of these were Theo's take. He was pushing…

He doesn't believe that unit tests are complete waste of time. Just a relative waste of time. He doesn't mind AI agents writing tests. It's just mostly waste of time for humans. Because the value you get for them is not worth developer time in most cases. It's worth agent time.

Re: GPT-5.6 Sol, along with Terra and Luna, will launch publicly this Thursday

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Post by incrudible »

satvikpendem wrote: post #201
incrudible wrote: post #170

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Casey (on his channels) does not do the clickbait thing, which makes all the difference. You can either maintain integrity and credibility or you can make brainrot shockface “it is over” content. There is no middle ground. Maybe you are desensitized to it, but I have a carefully curated YouTube and I know that it can be a completely different platform experience if you reject with prejudice any such content.

Use DeArrow if you're so sensitive to it. And like I said, it is necessary if YouTube is also a money making endeavor. Casey likely makes little from his videos so he doesn't need to have clickbait thumbnails.

DeArrow gives a YouTube page with rageslop that has been marked as rageslop. I do not need an addon to determine that, I need a feed that does not serve it to me in the first place, and that means curating my feed by rejecting certain videos and channels.

And this goes back to my point, if you are a competent engineer, why are you spending time producing rageslop for money, rather than, you know, doing the engineering.

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