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Re: Apple to increase spend with Broadcom to produce billions more U.S. chips

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Post by smallmancontrov »

AbrahamParangi wrote: post #47
smallmancontrov wrote: post #38

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> We literally can't lose Who is "we"? Trade deficit dollars are recycled into assets, which compete with exports in the balance of payments. If you have a big house and fat brokerage account, you win big. If you have a job building shit, you lose big. If you have a job building tradeable shit and a low net worth, may god have mercy on your soul. If you want the full economist version, "Trade Wars are Class Wars" by…

We is the country. Yeah, not everyone gets to win the same amount at the same time. The alternative is just maga communism (pathetic).

"We" is 10% of the country at best. Asset ownership is concentrated.

No, the alternative is Alexander Hamilton protectionism, which built the country into an industrial superpower that eclipsed the very shadow it was put in place to escape.

What's done is done, though. We successfully sold the industrial base of the USA to the Communist Party of China in order to pump our brokerage accounts. Winning?

Re: Apple to increase spend with Broadcom to produce billions more U.S. chips

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Post by MobiusHorizons »

samgranieri wrote: post #111
Narishma wrote: post #95

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I think they were complaining about grammar. Shouldn't it have been 'spending' rather than 'spend'?

yes, I was complaining about grammar

Spend used as a noun is a common finance term. I also hear “spend rate” used similarly.

It would be weird (but not necessarily wrong) to use that word as a noun outside of a business finance context.

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Post by matwood »

throwaway2037 wrote: post #86
matwood wrote: post #63

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https://www.piie.com/blogs/realtime-economics/2025/trumps-ta... Steel tariffs are calculated to cost ~$900k per job saved. It also makes all other industries in the US that use steel less competitive in the global market.

Steel is particularly sensitive in rich countries. Ask yourself: Why haven't all steel plants closed in rich countries and moved to poor countries? Military.

Sure, steel is important to keep in a country for many reasons. It doesn't mean tariffs are the most effective way to meet that goal.

Re: Apple to increase spend with Broadcom to produce billions more U.S. chips

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Post by myrmidon »

samgranieri wrote: post #85

What is with the phrase "increase spend"? It just seems gramatically .... off. Why not say "Apple partners with Broadcom to produce billions more US chips".

It's gramatically correct, spend is a noun here (but you expected a verb).

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/spend#Noun

Re: Apple to increase spend with Broadcom to produce billions more U.S. chips

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Post by hyperbovine »

samgranieri wrote: post #85

What is with the phrase "increase spend"? It just seems gramatically .... off. Why not say "Apple partners with Broadcom to produce billions more US chips".

"spend" as a noun is a linguistic differentiator to indicate what a badass MBA program you attended.

Re: Apple to increase spend with Broadcom to produce billions more U.S. chips

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Post by smallmancontrov »

matwood wrote: post #60
throwawaytea wrote: post #55

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You're conflating better for apple (and shareholders) with better for the country overall.

The US economy has been one of the best performing economies ever, which has been great for the country overall. Deeper economic ties with other super powers is also a pretty good at keeping the peace. While there are some specific issues, it's hard to argue it hasn't been good for the country overall.

Best performing for whom?

If the type of prosperity you want to point to is "stock market go up," we need to talk about who owns the stocks and who doesn't.

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Post by groundzeros2015 »

wat10000 wrote: post #119
groundzeros2015 wrote: post #110

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People literally work their lives for that representation. It’s not the value itself but it’s a way to store and transfer certain kinds of value.

It's a way to represent that value. The number does not itself store the value, nor does changing the number transfer the value. It's true that people work hard for that representation, because we've built systems where the link between the representation and the underlying value is quite strong, but it is still just a number at the end of the day.

That number that you don’t think is real lets you claim actual resources now and in the future.

I think you should equally be confused about abstractions such as university credentials, or citizenship.

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Post by MobiusHorizons »

MrBuddyCasino wrote: post #82
ahartmetz wrote: post #74

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If you find that fascinating already... did you know that all cellphones use mechanical filters in the GHz range ? They combine very good performance with very low energy consumption. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surface_acoustic_wave https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akustische-Oberfl%C3%A4chenwel... (pictures)

Honestly, the "HF physics is black magic" trope has made me numb to the phantastical contraptions. I appreciate when they look cool, like esoteric orgon wave radiators.

Small note of clarification. HF in a radio frequency (RF) context actually refers to what we would now consider fairly low frequencies between 3 and 30mhz where wavelengths are in the tens of meters. The black magic is mostly in UHF AND microwave regions where wavelengths start to measure closer to the size of circuit elements.

Although I have also heard it said “RF physics is black magic” to cover all the bases

Re: Apple to increase spend with Broadcom to produce billions more U.S. chips

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Post by mancerayder »

samgranieri wrote: post #85

What is with the phrase "increase spend"? It just seems gramatically .... off. Why not say "Apple partners with Broadcom to produce billions more US chips".

In English (is it worse in American English?) we frequently convert gerunds into simpler forms of the word. The spending turns into the spend. Related,the request turns into the ask (although this example turns out to have a strong anglo saxon linguistic bias).
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