Let's try the suggested advice and ask why five times. > Why do you even need an AI assistant here? To take notes on what we talked about. > Why do you want to do that? Because I want to retain the contents of this conversation, and I don't want to be distracted by note-taking. I want to be in the moment and also have a record of what we talked about for later. > Why do you want a record? Because I expect that what y…
"When have you arrived on this planet, and how did you come up with that name?"
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#92This post is incoherent. It begins with an anecdote about AI in a medical context, but later acts as if the whole post is about AI in casual conversation (as it is in the (better-written) post they are responding to). Those are very different contexts with very different considerations! But also both the original post and reply are premised on the idea that saying "actually I'd rather not" is super awkward and makes you "sound like a paranoid Luddite". That is catastrophizing, as evidenced by the anecdote in which the author says "yes I mind" and it is totally fine. Look, different people have different social norms, and while it is good to have boundaries and voice them, it is also good to try to understand where they're coming from, and not respond with "of course I fucking mind, how dare you!" To people like me, an AI transcription of a convo is simply not the same as a third person in the conversation. If you introspect for a bit, you can probably see how I could think the way I do. I certainly understand how someone can think AI is like a third person! If you take the time to understand where people are coming from, it will make it easier for you to politely establish your boundaries and also lower your blood pressure in general.
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#93> Let's imagine for a second that the whole AI craze doesn't exist, but you still would want to real-time note-taker, what would you do? Indeed, you bring a literal third person to the table. That will just be sitting there, listening in on your conversation and writing everything down. That's what secretaries were, and this happened in pretty much every significant business meeting for a long long time.
And then the secretary shared the conversation with 260 ‘partners’ and added everything you said to an LLM training corpus… So, NO, this is not “what secretaries were”
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#94Earlier quoted context omitted.
Are AI-assistant-enriched coffee catch ups an actual thing that's happening or is OP inventing scenarios to be mad at?
On a date, when the clothes come off I press record (with consent) on my Ai assistant. The after action report is enlightening.
Ah, I see you studied on Beta Colony, where they have a very logical approach to such things. /vorkosigan-saga-reference
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#95Earlier quoted context omitted.
Actually I think one of the main values of note taking isn't that you get notes, it is that engaging your brain to summarize points makes you understand and remember the points better, even if you throw your notes away right after. It is like writing: One of the main purposes of writing (for me and many others) is that it forces you to structure your thoughts. You could give that task to AI, get the resulting text, b…
This is definitely a thing that's been studied in schools: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20268974 (2019, 238 comments) However, note taking in a business sense is usually different than note taking in an academic sense. Business meetings are more often used to make decisions, unlike academics where lectures are intended to disseminate information.
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#96Earlier quoted context omitted.
"When have you arrived on this planet, and how did you come up with that name?"
The 1970s, and it is an allusion to an immigrant from the game "Papers, Please" who is stuck in a dystopian bureaucracy.
Anyway, if someone asks you to respect their rights, such as not recording them, telling them you value them too much to respect that is just... odd. It wouldn't make me feel valued or even considered as a person, at all. And it would change the situation from "this person hasn't noticed they're about to step on my foot, I better tell them" to "this person is unable to perceive it and/or doesn't care".
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#97Earlier quoted context omitted.
Are AI-assistant-enriched coffee catch ups an actual thing that's happening or is OP inventing scenarios to be mad at?
On a date, when the clothes come off I press record (with consent) on my Ai assistant. The after action report is enlightening.
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#98Earlier quoted context omitted.
> and this happened in pretty much every significant business meeting i think the point being made is that you typically didn't bring your secretary with you, notepad and pen in hand, when you went down to the local coffee shop to catch up with someone.
Are AI-assistant-enriched coffee catch ups an actual thing that's happening or is OP inventing scenarios to be mad at?
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#99I use it in my professional appointments. If someone asked me not to, I'd turn it off. It makes the flow of the appointment much better than if I try to write the notes as we go, and if I don't write then and there, something will probably be left out. Edited to add, I don't see what problem the OP has, unless they're just uncomfortable saying no.
> I don't see what problem the OP has OP's problem seems to be that there is an assumption that they are okay with being recorded, which is their very first argument in this article. What's more, with the attitude you apparently have, we should expect more incidents such as this: https://www.reddit.com/r/mildlyinfuriating/comments/1um3anj/... This whole "it makes the flow of the appointment much better" argument is o…
If you can't say, "I do not like smoking, thanks", then you don't really get to complain, "What nerve! To smoke in front of me!"
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#100Earlier quoted context omitted.
the provider using AI to takes notes is still responsible for what happens to those notes
That should be the case, but the frequent data breaches that I get notified about with little consequence to the companies involved make me doubt that there will be real incentives for good behavior.