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List of European organizations that have banned personal messaging apps at work

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Re: List of European organizations that have banned personal messaging apps at work

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Post by rock_artist »

weinzierl wrote: post #16

"ban personal messaging apps at work" What does that even mean? I doubt you can forbid the usage of personal messaging apps except in very exceptional cases (like a court room). On the other hand: Using personal messaging apps for work related information is a no-go anyway because of confidentiality agreements basically everyone signs.

I also didn't fully understand if the context is:

- Ban ANY use of your personal chats / device at work (eg. your wife texts you to bring milk on the way home)

- Ban WORK communication (eg. My colleague don't understand recent commit I've made)

So the web really isn't explaining how things enforced or what is being done. I do know of some industries where you put your personal phone when entering specific locations or having stickers on cameras) but here I didn't fully understood the scope.

Re: List of European organizations that have banned personal messaging apps at work

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Post by sib »

sigmoid10 wrote: post #13
benny_s wrote: post #6

At least for the financial institutions on this list, I can say they have no other choice. Regulation forces them to log everything to avoid insider trading, etc. Any communication outside of their internal systems can't be logged and is therefore a compliance risk.

GDPR guarantees a right to privacy even on work devices. I think you need to filter out personal messages if compliance requires logging.

Which is actually a good reason for entities subject to GDPR to forbid use of personal messaging apps on work devices... (And to forbid users to use work / official apps for personal messaging.)

Re: List of European organizations that have banned personal messaging apps at work

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Post by blitzar »

weinzierl wrote: post #16

"ban personal messaging apps at work" What does that even mean? I doubt you can forbid the usage of personal messaging apps except in very exceptional cases (like a court room). On the other hand: Using personal messaging apps for work related information is a no-go anyway because of confidentiality agreements basically everyone signs.

Finance - no personal devices in the office and no personal (or unauthorised) messaging apps on your work devices.

Re: List of European organizations that have banned personal messaging apps at work

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Post by inemesitaffia »

rock_artist wrote: post #21
weinzierl wrote: post #16

"ban personal messaging apps at work" What does that even mean? I doubt you can forbid the usage of personal messaging apps except in very exceptional cases (like a court room). On the other hand: Using personal messaging apps for work related information is a no-go anyway because of confidentiality agreements basically everyone signs.

I also didn't fully understand if the context is: - Ban ANY use of your personal chats / device at work (eg. your wife texts you to bring milk on the way home) - Ban WORK communication (eg. My colleague don't understand recent commit I've made) So the web really isn't explaining how things enforced or what is being done. I do know of some industries where you put your personal phone when entering specific locations o…

Yahoo messenger/BBM used to be popular when I was in banking and that's where banking was done. Then confirmed via email.

Now the idea is all banking related stuff is done on approved devices and clients so you can deal with retention(more like deletion) and loss.

And no personal chat clients too. If you're low enough on the pole, you don't even get to keep your personal devices with you.

Re: List of European organizations that have banned personal messaging apps at work

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Post by lossyalgo »

nottorp wrote: post #20

Of course, the consequence is you end up communicating for work on something like Teams instead of an usable chat app.

I refuse to install that malware on my phone. Upshot is that I don't get bothered by coworkers after hours.

Re: List of European organizations that have banned personal messaging apps at work

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Post by amelius »

jagged-chisel wrote: post #12
reedciccio wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, they do but they require walking to their office and deal with paper or call them during ever shrinking office hours. Take your poison.

Pick your poison. “Take” sounds too threatening.

"Inject" is clearly the right word here.

Re: List of European organizations that have banned personal messaging apps at work

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Post by tecleandor »

weinzierl wrote: post #16

"ban personal messaging apps at work" What does that even mean? I doubt you can forbid the usage of personal messaging apps except in very exceptional cases (like a court room). On the other hand: Using personal messaging apps for work related information is a no-go anyway because of confidentiality agreements basically everyone signs.

Using personal messaging apps for work, for example, sending work related messages through WhatsApp or Telegram instead of using the proper corporate/official app.

You can forbid your employees to use non official apps to send work related messages for privacy, compliance, security and other reasons.

Re: List of European organizations that have banned personal messaging apps at work

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Post by throwa356262 »

nottorp wrote: post #20

Of course, the consequence is you end up communicating for work on something like Teams instead of an usable chat app.

Like zoom where you chat disappears when the meeting is closed?

Or how about slack, that lives in an alternate reality where outlook calendar can be ignored?

Re: List of European organizations that have banned personal messaging apps at work

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Post by [deleted] »

inemesitaffia wrote: post #24
rock_artist wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I also didn't fully understand if the context is: - Ban ANY use of your personal chats / device at work (eg. your wife texts you to bring milk on the way home) - Ban WORK communication (eg. My colleague don't understand recent commit I've made) So the web really isn't explaining how things enforced or what is being done. I do know of some industries where you put your personal phone when entering specific locations o…

Yahoo messenger/BBM used to be popular when I was in banking and that's where banking was done. Then confirmed via email. Now the idea is all banking related stuff is done on approved devices and clients so you can deal with retention(more like deletion) and loss. And no personal chat clients too. If you're low enough on the pole, you don't even get to keep your personal devices with you.

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