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List of European organizations that have banned personal messaging apps at work

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Re: List of European organizations that have banned personal messaging apps at work

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I don't understand why they put this up like it's working in their favor. Their website doesn't explain anything extraordinary that makes them different from the average chat app, except that it is europe based.

What would possibly differentiate a chat app?

E2EE? F/OSS? P2P?

Re: List of European organizations that have banned personal messaging apps at work

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Why not delete it? I assume that if you don't have it, they offer some other form of communication with you?

Yes, they do but they require walking to their office and deal with paper or call them during ever shrinking office hours. Take your poison.

Pick your poison.

“Take” sounds too threatening.

Re: List of European organizations that have banned personal messaging apps at work

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At least for the financial institutions on this list, I can say they have no other choice. Regulation forces them to log everything to avoid insider trading, etc. Any communication outside of their internal systems can't be logged and is therefore a compliance risk.

GDPR guarantees a right to privacy even on work devices. I think you need to filter out personal messages if compliance requires logging.

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post #6

At least for the financial institutions on this list, I can say they have no other choice. Regulation forces them to log everything to avoid insider trading, etc. Any communication outside of their internal systems can't be logged and is therefore a compliance risk.

GDPR guarantees a right to privacy even on work devices. I think you need to filter out personal messages if compliance requires logging.

As much as I prefer the European way of some items. I think the American way of treating the work computer as a company asset and just locking it down to an insane degree makes way more sense. Especially for areas like finance.

Re: List of European organizations that have banned personal messaging apps at work

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"ban personal messaging apps at work"

What does that even mean? I doubt you can forbid the usage of personal messaging apps except in very exceptional cases (like a court room).

On the other hand: Using personal messaging apps for work related information is a no-go anyway because of confidentiality agreements basically everyone signs.

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What would possibly differentiate a chat app?

E2EE? F/OSS? P2P?

In reality, they don't, not really. The only important differentiator is whether your friends use it and whether you have to self-host a server to use it (which has a large impact upon point 1).

Re: List of European organizations that have banned personal messaging apps at work

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At least for the financial institutions on this list, I can say they have no other choice. Regulation forces them to log everything to avoid insider trading, etc. Any communication outside of their internal systems can't be logged and is therefore a compliance risk.

Been a sackable offence for over a decade in finance, I can not fathom why other sectors have been so slow to enforce some basic standards.

Recording every call, message (and in my office - thing you said at your desk) is mostly used for conflict resolution - when counterparties disagree you go to the tapes and see what was said. From there my word is my bond, it is done.

Re: List of European organizations that have banned personal messaging apps at work

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I don't understand why they put this up like it's working in their favor. Their website doesn't explain anything extraordinary that makes them different from the average chat app, except that it is europe based.

I'm not reading anything in this article that seems to pretend like it's working in their favour?

It's just an article from a company about their industry, companies do that all the time for brand recognition, building trust (showing expertise in their domain), and educating potential customers about why they might need this sort of product (lead generation).

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