Every new car sold in the European Union must include a driver monitoring camera

Post by linksnapzz » Wed, Jul 08, 2026, 1:53 AM UTC

bitwize wrote: post #238

A_D_E_P_T wrote: post #6

All new cars. At this point I don't know if I'd buy anything made after 2008. Whenever I rent a new car around here (in the EU) I find them very annoying. The worst is the cruise control that tries to stick to the speed limit -- but its sensors don't always read the signs very well, so you'll often slow to 50 km/h (about 30 mph) for no reason. Then there's the incessant beeping at you, "lane assist" that you can't tu…

The good news is that by making cars more trouble than they're worth, this may speed us closer to walkable, bikeable neighborhoods that can only be reasonably navigated on foot or by bike, connected by extensive public transit networks (which already do track where you're going).

Post by eldaisfish » Wed, Jul 08, 2026, 1:55 AM UTC

BeetleB wrote: post #327

vladvasiliu wrote: post #312

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> IIRC, veering from the lane is the cause of most collisions, so it makes sense to have this. My dad's Toyota has this. The issue is it seems to have a hard time actually centering itself in the lane, so it'll just sway from side to side like a drunk driver if the lane is somewhat narrow. And you can forget about driving on secondary roads, which usually don't have markings on the sides. It'll keep trying to drive i…

> My dad's Toyota has this. The issue is it seems to have a hard time actually centering itself in the lane, so it'll just sway from side to side like a drunk driver if the lane is somewhat narrow. Newer cars (or other cars) do a better job of this. Mine doesn't do the ping pong - it really does keep it centered. However, the point is that it should direct you back into the lane and you're supposed to take over. If i…

Post by mrandish » Wed, Jul 08, 2026, 2:01 AM UTC

Humphrey wrote: post #568

I hired a Chinese Haval Car for a weekend last year (Australia). It started beeping at me for being distracted because I was checking for traffic in the other lanes - which is crucial when driving in a 4 lane highway. Of cause, I had never experienced such a beep before, so I had to take my eyes off the road tp look at the screen to see what the reason for the beeping was. Then, on a multlane highway, I would indicat…

Post by whatsupdog » Wed, Jul 08, 2026, 2:05 AM UTC

cucumber3732842 wrote: post #490

moffkalast wrote: post #288

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Driving4answers had a similar rant recently about the 2024 Prius, where there's an always-on warning beep every time you enter an intersection, which intrusively pulls away your attention in the exact moment when you need to be focusing on the road the most. I'll be surprised if it doesn't cause someone to die in the coming years. Laws for drivers written by people with chauffeurs.

> Laws for drivers written by people with chauffeurs. Not even that. They know the laws are stupid. They don't care. It's just another day at work for them. They're trying to surgically write laws to garner support/votes from shorsighted hand wringing Karens (plenty of examples in HN comments) while also not actually hurting industry/donors. So stupid rules and stupid beeps are what you get.

Post by userbinator » Wed, Jul 08, 2026, 2:11 AM UTC

noosphr wrote: post #180

zormino wrote: post #49

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And you can bypass a seatbelt warning by just plugging in a buckle without the belt, but most people don't bother. It's not worth the inconvenience to circumvent, so it still has a positive impact on safety.

Go in a car from 1970 and try the seatbelts. I can see why people didn't want them. I too would rather not have a stiff blade like plastic meterial nearly cut my head off everytime the car breaks. By comparison today we have luxurious silk strands that don't pinch anywhere.