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Every new car sold in the European Union must include a driver monitoring camera

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Re: Every new car sold in the European Union must include a driver monitoring camera

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Post by sanmarzano »

awakeasleep wrote: post #9

Ford has had that since Blue Cruise 2.0, or thereabouts. It really shocked me how often it catches my attention being diverted. Things like talking to my passengers, adjusting the climate controls, or eating- I'm not even talking about 'advanced distractions' like my phone. It also seemed really accurate. I never remember it beeping at me when I was actually paying attention. It's totally plausible to me that this ki…

Thank you! I often feel like I’m in the minority on this site, it is nice to hear someone else articulate my feelings. Driving is a privilege not a right. But since America decided to decimate public transit in the early 20th century (and stick with it) we’re stuck with cars. So I’m in favor of anything that makes it safer. Hopefully this crosses the pond.

Re: Every new car sold in the European Union must include a driver monitoring camera

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Post by austin-schick »

joenot443 wrote: post #374
awakeasleep wrote: post #9

Ford has had that since Blue Cruise 2.0, or thereabouts. It really shocked me how often it catches my attention being diverted. Things like talking to my passengers, adjusting the climate controls, or eating- I'm not even talking about 'advanced distractions' like my phone. It also seemed really accurate. I never remember it beeping at me when I was actually paying attention. It's totally plausible to me that this ki…

> It's totally plausible to me that this kind of nudge will save a lot of lives. I think an in-car breathalyzer which gates the ignition would also save a lot of lives. Most people agree that kind of manufactured paternalism is an overreach and would be against its introduction. Other people say the same about the diverted driving detector, and I imagine others said the same about the seatbelt sensor. The intersectio…

I think I'd consider this kind of technology at the intersection of personal freedom and _public_ safety. Drunk or distracted driving puts others at risk, not just you.

Re: Every new car sold in the European Union must include a driver monitoring camera

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Post by WalterBright »

yallpendantools wrote: post #455
WalterBright wrote: post #376

Boeing found out the problem with "beeping" alarms. The first time they installed a warning horn, I think it was the stall warning, it was a big success. So, they started adding different horns for other situations. At one point, in an emergency, the pilot got confused about which horn meant what, and had an accident. So now, Boeing replaced horns with a voice, like "pull up". Sounds obvious, right? But car beeps gen…

Reminds me of the tensest moment in my first month driving and with a brand new car too. I started driving and something beeped. I was in pretty thick traffic at the time so I nervously (I can't emphasize this enough) found a quieter side road to troubleshoot. I think there was also an indicator on the dashboard to couple with the beep but if it did, the icon representation left much for guesswork. After about five m…

I've gotten beeps and something flashed on the instrument panel, but when I focused my eyes on the instrument panel, it was gone.

Freakin' useless.

A better user interface would be to have the whole panel turn red when you're about to hit something.

Re: Every new car sold in the European Union must include a driver monitoring camera

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Post by awepofiwaop »

zero0529 wrote: post #371

The overregulation and the constant attempt to destroy any notion of privacy has really pushed me towards being anti EU. I wonder if ressources are spent seeding that sentiment.

To be clear, this will also happen in the USA. The destruction of privacy is perhaps the only issue with full throated support across the political spectrum.

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Post by Fuzzwah »

BeetleB wrote: post #327
vladvasiliu wrote: post #312

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> IIRC, veering from the lane is the cause of most collisions, so it makes sense to have this. My dad's Toyota has this. The issue is it seems to have a hard time actually centering itself in the lane, so it'll just sway from side to side like a drunk driver if the lane is somewhat narrow. And you can forget about driving on secondary roads, which usually don't have markings on the sides. It'll keep trying to drive i…

> My dad's Toyota has this. The issue is it seems to have a hard time actually centering itself in the lane, so it'll just sway from side to side like a drunk driver if the lane is somewhat narrow. Newer cars (or other cars) do a better job of this. Mine doesn't do the ping pong - it really does keep it centered. However, the point is that it should direct you back into the lane and you're supposed to take over. If i…

The person you're replying to mentioned a Toyota, which I also drive a newer model of. It has two modes: lane assist (which works like you have described) and lane centering (which automatically is enabled when you switch on cruise control). The centering will continuously nudge you towards what it decides is the center of your lane.

It's awful and I've trained myself to automatically long press the button on the steering wheel to disable the entire system every time I get behind the wheel.

Re: Every new car sold in the European Union must include a driver monitoring camera

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Post by simoncion »

noosphr wrote: post #180
zormino wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And you can bypass a seatbelt warning by just plugging in a buckle without the belt, but most people don't bother. It's not worth the inconvenience to circumvent, so it still has a positive impact on safety.

Go in a car from 1970 and try the seatbelts. I can see why people didn't want them. I too would rather not have a stiff blade like plastic meterial nearly cut my head off everytime the car breaks. By comparison today we have luxurious silk strands that don't pinch anywhere.

> I too would rather not have a stiff blade like plastic meterial nearly cut my head off everytime the car breaks.

I have to wonder how much of this is due to ~fifty years of aging of the belt material. It's not as if the very first time we'd ever designed and installed an operator-safety belt was in the 1970s... so it'd be very surprising if the designers chose to make them stiff blades. Your description is also at odds with how I've seen people handle and use seatbelts in motion pictures from the era... from what I've seen, those belts look to me to be reasonably flexible.

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