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Yes of course. What else would you give plants, water out the toilet!?
Every new car sold in the European Union must include a driver monitoring camera
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Re: Every new car sold in the European Union must include a driver monitoring camera
#272Earlier quoted context omitted.
Nope, that's not what we call slippery slope. This system does not require data recording or sharing, does not require cameras.
Once the camera is there, the temptation for future governments to use this power for more things than originally required will become irresistible. also: https://www.google.com/search?q=what+does+slippery+slope+mea...
That's not slippery slope, no cameras are required. The whole outrage is based on bullshit ragebait.
Re: Every new car sold in the European Union must include a driver monitoring camera
#273I test drove a Subaru (in America) with this feature and absolutely hated it. The amount of false positives was ridiculous. Often I was literally staring straight ahead, driving on a straight road, and getting beeped at to pay attention.
It felt like total security theater, which a huge surveillance tech vector as well. I will do my damnedest to never ever buy a car with this anti-feature. If I ever have to I'm sure those beeps will either get disabled one way or another, or eventually be completely filtered out by my brain like other predictably useless sounds are.
Re: Every new car sold in the European Union must include a driver monitoring camera
#274Earlier quoted context omitted.
I grew up in/with cars which would score 0 (more like -3 to -5) and made it to adulthood, so I have a feeling that these features are not strictly neccesary. At the same time what if it saves at least one life a year? (same goes for riding with/without helmets)
My father grew up drinking a ton of alcohol and smoking, like his friends. Many of them are dead. By your logic, we should keep drinking and smoking.
We should ban driving by your logic?
Re: Every new car sold in the European Union must include a driver monitoring camera
#275Before you comment or engage with the OP, check his comment and submission history. Make of it what you will.
Being concerned about the trend of laws in the EU doesn't make someone a bad actor.
A sus posting history, grammar peppered with typical machine translated russisms, and an occasional ‘russia good’ slip does.
Re: Every new car sold in the European Union must include a driver monitoring camera
#276Earlier quoted context omitted.
Tell me you live in a civilised country without telling me you live in a civilised country. Over here, in Greece, whenever you try to avoid a pothole, a double-parked car, a cyclist, a pedestrian, a stray, ANYTHING, lane assist always tries its best to make you hit whatever you're trying to avoid.
Earlier this year, I rented a new Toyota Camry (US model). It had lane assist, but it was very easy to override it. I didn't really have to fight it. (And that was nice. I've drive other cars where it was more of a battle.) So, yeah, it's done badly some of the time. But it at least can be done well.
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Re: Every new car sold in the European Union must include a driver monitoring camera
#277Ford has had that since Blue Cruise 2.0, or thereabouts. It really shocked me how often it catches my attention being diverted. Things like talking to my passengers, adjusting the climate controls, or eating- I'm not even talking about 'advanced distractions' like my phone. It also seemed really accurate. I never remember it beeping at me when I was actually paying attention. It's totally plausible to me that this ki…
> It's totally plausible to me that this kind of nudge will save a lot of lives.
Probable especially if it gets drunk drivers off the road but I, for one, would be deeply uncomfortable driving knowing my every twitch is recorded and _more importantly_ open to misinterpretation in case of a claim. I could easily believe otherwise averagely fine drivers being negatively affected by this if the surveillance takes up headspace.
Observation affects systems but not always for the better.
I also wonder how well this fares under night driving conditions where the inside of the car has poor exposure.
Related: https://petapixel.com/2025/07/11/dutch-woman-fined-500-after...
Re: Every new car sold in the European Union must include a driver monitoring camera
#278Before you comment or engage with the OP, check his comment and submission history. Make of it what you will.
To make things fair, I looked at both yours and his. Guess he's concerned about privacy especially in the EU, and you like to call anyone a Russian bot for complaining. I probably qualify as Russian bot too, brb changing Lada oil.
Re: Every new car sold in the European Union must include a driver monitoring camera
#279We should make an open source one that provably doesn't transmit anything except the distracted driving warning signal.
Re: Every new car sold in the European Union must include a driver monitoring camera
#280Earlier quoted context omitted.
I can answer this, since I have a new car with this camera and polarized sunglasses. MOST of the time it's good about telling when I'm looking and when I'm not, out of maybe... 5 alerts over the previous 8 months all, but one occurred when I was in fact looking away for one reason or another. Likewise when it's correct my lane-keeping it's been right about me drifting. Given how inattentive I see other drivers being,…
Just because it's available in a Lexus does not mean it's available in a Corolla
In Europe it does. ADDW is required in all new vehicles, including Corollas.