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Re: Top researchers leave USA for the Netherlands (in Dutch)

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Great initiative, and good to see that it has an effect. I'm a bit sceptical about the available funds. 1 million over 5 years is a nice starting package (4+ PhD students), but the availability of overall research grant money in the Netherlands has been under pressure for years and is difficult to acquire. Researchers moving here may find it difficult to acquire further grant money compared to US, at least in CS.

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Re: Top researchers leave USA for the Netherlands (in Dutch)

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The laser is from the US, the optics are German (Zeiss)

Isn't TRUMPF a German company?

OP was slightly mistaken. The laser itself is provided by TRUMPF, a German company. Cymer (USA) integrates that laser with tin droplet, plasma, optical, vacuum, and control technologies to create the complete DUV/EUV light sources.

Re: Top researchers leave USA for the Netherlands (in Dutch)

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A lot deeper than active wars and energy supply issues??? Europe's economy has been slowing down since 2007, which is the peak of conventional oil. The problem of Europe is that is doesn't have access to abundant energy like the US does. The US likes to think that they have a better economy because they are smarter/work harder, but the reality is simple: abundant energy makes the economy.

>The US likes to think that they have a better economy because they are smarter/work harder, but the reality is simple: abundant energy makes the economy. The most valuable American companies are not exactly in energy-intensive industries: https://companiesmarketcap.com/

Everything depends on energy. Driving a car is a lot cheaper in the US because of abundant energy. That has an impact on the economy (the economy is pretty much trucks moving stuff around).

Re: Top researchers leave USA for the Netherlands (in Dutch)

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A lot deeper than active wars and energy supply issues??? Europe's economy has been slowing down since 2007, which is the peak of conventional oil. The problem of Europe is that is doesn't have access to abundant energy like the US does. The US likes to think that they have a better economy because they are smarter/work harder, but the reality is simple: abundant energy makes the economy.

The problem Europe has is an allergy to people making money. Oil prices aren't what drove every Euro tech worker to San Francisco for 25 years.

Since 2007, the European economy is in contraction if you look at physical indicators like "how much stuff do trucks move" or "what area is being built". That correlates directly with the peak of conventional oil and the fact that oil has been harder to get in Europe since 2007.

Re: Top researchers leave USA for the Netherlands (in Dutch)

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post #72

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A lot deeper than active wars and energy supply issues??? Europe's economy has been slowing down since 2007, which is the peak of conventional oil. The problem of Europe is that is doesn't have access to abundant energy like the US does. The US likes to think that they have a better economy because they are smarter/work harder, but the reality is simple: abundant energy makes the economy.

If have a hard time linking a slowdown from 2007 on to oil instead of the GFC.

I don't understand that sentence.

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Europe is not immigration friendly as well if you don't speak the native language, of course one could live in an English speaking bubble, but I'm not sure how feasible it would be in Academia.

Politically speaking, the top polling party in Germany refuses to have a discussion about neo-nazis in its ranks, and boasts that "we are growing stronger and larger all the time": https://www.youtube.com/shorts/rwflha_NkVE Similar things are going on in the UK (Reform/Restore) and France, where most projections have the National Rally candidate winning the next presidential election: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Op…

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Re: Top researchers leave USA for the Netherlands (in Dutch)

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If have a hard time linking a slowdown from 2007 on to oil instead of the GFC.

I don't understand that sentence.

GFC = Great Financial Crisis. I'd look at that first rather than some peak oil for Europe's underperformance.

Re: Top researchers leave USA for the Netherlands (in Dutch)

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Exactly; the biggest company in the Netherlands and its products (ASML and high end lithography machines), is built on top of the works of only a handful of researchers. The US nuclear weapons and space programs were similarly built on top of researchers they got from Europe. This is very much NOT a numbers game, and I want to believe top researchers rate their work and the benefit of humanity higher than a country,…

> the biggest company in the Netherlands and its products (ASML and high end lithography machines), is built on top of the works of only a handful of researchers. This is... wildly wrong. ASML is a multi-national company that licenses IP largely from USA and Japan, but also Taiwan and Germany. The actual EUV light source is developed and produced in California by Cymer, which ASML acquired in 2013. But ASML was only…

> There is a reason why ASML's next-generation research photolithography machine is currently being installed and developed in upstate New York, and not somewhere in the Netherlands. The same reason that Cymer is still in San Diego instead of being relocated to Europe.

What is the reason?

Re: Top researchers leave USA for the Netherlands (in Dutch)

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Politically speaking, the top polling party in Germany refuses to have a discussion about neo-nazis in its ranks, and boasts that "we are growing stronger and larger all the time": https://www.youtube.com/shorts/rwflha_NkVE Similar things are going on in the UK (Reform/Restore) and France, where most projections have the National Rally candidate winning the next presidential election: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Op…

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The white nationalist parties are *far* more of a threat to democracy in Europe than these very scary, adjective-laden immigrants.
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