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IRecognition: I am no longer Apple's Target Market

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Re: IRecognition: I am no longer Apple's Target Market

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Post by shimfish »

greedo wrote: post #177
shimfish wrote: post #37

It's simply stunning to me to see how long it's taken the computer geeks to work this out. Apple stopped making toys for you over a decade ago and you are only just realising it now? I guess this is another consequence of the filter bubble. As all we read on the internet is the opinion of other geeks, we forget that geeks are hopelessly outnumbered by normals and they are the ones Apple is targeting and reaping the r…

Please stop with the "geeks and normals" meme. It does nothing but make you sound elitist.

Is it the terms you object to or do you fundamentally reject the premise?

Re: IRecognition: I am no longer Apple's Target Market

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Post by josh2600 »

Shivetya wrote: post #131
w0utert wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What does that even mean? Is HN supposed to be a medium for the preservation of some kind of philosophical balance of power between operating systems and hardware vendors? Shame on me for thinking it was a medium to report on technology and the startup scene all along :-/ It's really sad to see how every.single.time community driven websites devolve into ideological crusades between people who can't seem to just acce…

To be honest I have seen the same happen here as on other sites. The community seems to pass through phases with its view about a company. From initial interest, near blind loyalty, to OMG WTF they are evil. This happens with individuals in tech too, though there are examples where many end up redeemed in the eyes of the community. Apple began inching into the OMG WTF EVIL category awhile back for some and others eve…

Google Peter Thiel's "Founder as Victim, Founder as God" which is a treatise on this very subject.

Re: IRecognition: I am no longer Apple's Target Market

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Post by forthewyn »

Quite honestly, this kind of post just makes me want to hurl. The OP was NEVER the target market for Apple, it just so happened that Apple's design choices coincided with his or her needs.

If you ever thought Apple's primary target market was uber-geeks, you were seriously deluding yourself. The reason so many of us were drawn to OSX was that it runs Mach BSD under the hood - so yay, we all get a nice convenient UNIX(TM) workstation that also runs commercial software and games.

I've got to admit I'm getting awfully sick of this kind of meaningless hand wringing. You want commodity hardware and the ability to tinker with everything* then by all means go buy a Linux box, just don't get all high and mighty and act as if Apple has betrayed you, because from their perspective exactly nothing has changed.

Re: IRecognition: I am no longer Apple's Target Market

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Post by moistgorilla »

LinXitoW wrote: post #138
ricw wrote: post #82

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The problem is that we don't have a choice. There's only one premium option to go for. And it's apple. It's surprising how none of the others have at least created a luxury brand, similar to Toyota/Lexus or Volkswagen/Audi.

What about Thinkpads? They seem to be Windows/Linux equivalent of the Macbooks.

Thinkpads aren't pretty enough for the average apple user.

Re: IRecognition: I am no longer Apple's Target Market

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Post by forthewyn »

ebbv wrote: post #187

Another day another one of these absurd, self-righteous blog posts. What's hilarious to me is that only Apple draws this kind of posturing and absurdity. You don't see blog posts like this about Dell or Sony. But you DID see posts like this about Microsoft in the '90s. It's really more about standing up and decrying whatever company is on top than anything else. People feel like by slagging on the top tech company th…

A-men. The self righteous tone gets SO old after a while.

What's also strange to me is that these posts get the up votes they do. is this REALLY news to anyone?

Re: IRecognition: I am no longer Apple's Target Market

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Post by greedo »

shimfish wrote: post #191
greedo wrote: post #177

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please stop with the "geeks and normals" meme. It does nothing but make you sound elitist.

Is it the terms you object to or do you fundamentally reject the premise?

It's obviously the premise; that people who are proficient in computers (whatever that may mean) are abnormal.

Computer/tech savvy is obviously a continuum. Lumping people into binary categories doesn't help the conversation much.

Re: IRecognition: I am no longer Apple's Target Market

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Post by calinet6 »

arn wrote: post #12

What's weird is that this has been a running argument for almost the entire existence of Apple. Here's the thing though -- Apple hasn't changed. They are simply closer to their goals then ever. I'm not saying it's right. But computer as an appliance? That's the dream! In the 80s we would argue on Usenet that the WIMP interface was too simplistic, and that real computer users stuck to the command line only. Now, in 20…

If anything the new MacBooks have more expandability than ever... I mean, TWO thunderbolt ports? People do realize that those are just external PCIe x2 ports right? That's more external bandwidth potential than any laptop has had, like, ever.

Re: IRecognition: I am no longer Apple's Target Market

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Post by pjmlp »

rayiner wrote: post #186
pjmlp wrote: post #161

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When I was at CERN, back in 2004 they made a session at the IT building showing us how great it would be to use Mac OS X as UNIX workstation. Those days are long gone it seems.

How so? Nothing is changed.

Now Macs are being sold as iOS development stations.
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