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Dua Lipa opens library for banned and censored books in Portugal

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Re: Dua Lipa opens library for banned and censored books in Portugal

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

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It's not about Islam. If that's what you thought, I suggest a second read, this time paying more attention?

"Atwood herself has acknowledged that the Islamic Revolution in Iran, which took place in 1978-79, was a direct inspiration for her novel."

https://www.patreon.com/DarvishIntelligence/posts/handmaids-...

Re: Dua Lipa opens library for banned and censored books in Portugal

#112
post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you read the book instead of watching "influencers" you'd notice it's explicitly about a Christian theocracy, but whatever.

Atwood is on record saying the inspiration is Iran 79's Islamic revolution.

She might be, but what she's actually written in the book is bible not koran references...

Re: Dua Lipa opens library for banned and censored books in Portugal

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post #84

For those of you pretending to have trouble understanding 'banned' in this context, it means essentially the same thing as when someone gets 'canceled'. People who are canceled are not literally thrown in prison and executed.

Well, it does kind of matter. "Banned" has a specific meaning. If a book is "banned" and you're allowed to possess it or sell it, it's not really banned, now is it? The usage of the word, despite the reality of the situation, strongly implies "this is a book the government WON'T LET YOU READ!" Except, they do. A more accurate term might be "politically unfavorable", but that doesn't get people riled up. And, I'm just…

When somebody says a book is banned, there's usually some context that provides details on the scope of the ban.

For example, North Korea has banned most western books so my local Barnes and Nobles is pretty much a banned book store.

Re: Dua Lipa opens library for banned and censored books in Portugal

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Livraria does not mean library, but bookstore. The Livraria Lello where this is located, is definitely a bookshop. It is not clear to me from the reporting if Manifesto Library is a translation error or if it really is a library within a bookshop. I suspect it's neither and more like an art installation.

They wrote: > inside the famed Livraria Lello bookshop So I think they are aware of the “false friends” words. With that said, I don’t think it’s an actual library, more like, as you said, an art installation, an exhibition, a space for highlighting books.

I wish there were some photos of it in the article so we could get a better understanding of what it is.

I've been to lots of bookstores with sections or displays for famously banned books. I'm pretty sure my local Indigo (basically a Canadian Barnes & Noble) has one. If that's all this is then it doesn't sound especially newsworthy outside of the celebrity involvement and maybe the renown of this particular shop.

OTOH the article describes it as a "permanent" installation, which does sound a little different from what I'm picturing.

Re: Dua Lipa opens library for banned and censored books in Portugal

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Whenever the topic of “banned books” comes up, a bunch of people argue about whether they should be called “banned”.

What I haven’t seen mentioned in these discussions is where the mental association of “banned books” comes from.

In America, at least, the school curriculum spends a lot of time talking about dictators. It mentions, numerous times over many years of a child’s life, that something dictators often do is to ban books that could make people question them or that could make people support people the dictator doesn’t like, etc. In all such cases covered in the school curriculum, dictators’ “banned books” are not allowed to be sold in the country at all, and are often destroyed, sometimes even in mass burnings.

So, this is the psychological association people typically have with the phrase “banned books”.

The news articles over the past X years declaring something like “Government Y bans books!” seem to be leveraging this mental association to give people the emotional impression that Government Y is doing dictatorships things. I think this is why people get annoyed, since not allowing whatever books in the school library is not a dictator thing (okay dictators do it but it’s like drinking milk or being against animal cruelty, it’s not something that is primarily done by dictators).

So, when people say that not allowing a book in a school library is a type of ban, they are correct, but they ignore this association which most people have from school.

Re: Dua Lipa opens library for banned and censored books in Portugal

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Dear reader, "banned" in this case means government institutions (school libraries) did not promote the book to schoolchildren. It does not mean possession of the book got anyone arrested, or that the books are not extremely easily available in major corporate retailers (or even in non-school government-funded libraries). So for example, one is unlikely to find in this library the kind of stickers that got Sam Melia arrested [1], or anything the UK would consider "likely to stir up racial hate" [2], such as the music album “Phoenix Rising” by Embers of an Empire [3,4].

Whether books by e.g. Jared Taylor are also "banned" in this manner in the UK is left wonderfully vague - the only way to find out is to be found possessing one, and then see if the government prosecutes you. You get chilling effects for free, and avoid the bad PR of a "banned books" list!

[1] https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-leeds-68448867

[2] https://www.thelawpages.com/criminal-offence/Possessing-raci...

[3] https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/R-v-Robe...

[4] https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce3yl0dgq3no

Re: Dua Lipa opens library for banned and censored books in Portugal

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Livraria does not mean library, but bookstore. The Livraria Lello where this is located, is definitely a bookshop. It is not clear to me from the reporting if Manifesto Library is a translation error or if it really is a library within a bookshop. I suspect it's neither and more like an art installation.

> The Livraria Lello where this is located, is definitely a bookshop.

And barely a bookshop at that, more of a tourist attraction. You need tickets to enter, and the main selection of books are classics, mainly public domain iirc. They have more recent/interesting books but only as decoration (I asked to buy a Naomi Klein book, they refused to sell it). Most people are just there to take pictures because the stairs inspired Harry Potter.

Re: Dua Lipa opens library for banned and censored books in Portugal

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Life of Brian is banned from public screening in parts of Germany on Good Friday. https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-news-from-elsewhere-23227452

I think I'll make showing that on Good Friday a tradition now.

ok

Re: Dua Lipa opens library for banned and censored books in Portugal

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Here's a video to highlight why Dua Lipa is not a typical "celebrity book club" type person: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QN1rULxGHCA

I've actually really been a fan of her, and her music before I heard about her Service95 endeavour. So seeing that video led me to looking into her Service95 work, and yeah, I have to say, she's the real deal.

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