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Dua Lipa opens library for banned and censored books in Portugal

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Re: Dua Lipa opens library for banned and censored books in Portugal

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Post by john_strinlai »

Aurornis wrote: post #23
caseysoftware wrote: post #5

Are those just banned and censored in Portugal specifically or the EU as a whole? A quick check here in the States showed all of them available on Amazon for under $25 each.

> A quick check here in the States showed all of them available on Amazon for under $25 each. The term “banned books” has become a pop culture meme. In this context it doesn’t literally mean banned, it means the book wasn’t allowed somewhere. In extreme cases a government in a controlling country may have forbidden the book. However in a lot of cases the “banned books” were just not allowed in some school’s library f…

>In this context it doesn’t literally mean banned, it means the book wasn’t allowed somewhere.

and what is a good word to use when something isn't allowed somewhere? perhaps... "banned"?

i dont understand why people think something needs be unavailable globally to be considered "banned".

there's a million examples of the word "banned" being used when X isn't allowed in Y context. people only get touchy about it when it comes to books for some reason.

dang bans people from HN, no one gets upset about the use of the word "ban" there, despite it being a context-specific ban.

Re: Dua Lipa opens library for banned and censored books in Portugal

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Post by Roark66 »

There are no books banned in EU... Some countries have laws that criminalise glorification of nazism or communism, but I never heard any book was "banned" as a result.

Here in Poland we had "Mein Kampf" by certain Austrian painter in my primary school library for example.

Re: Dua Lipa opens library for banned and censored books in Portugal

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Post by ricardobayes »

dijit wrote: post #26
seydor wrote: post #13

They are not banned in portugal. Appreciate the gesture but it s very inconsequential.

They are banned somewhere and the library is open in Portugal. If they were banned in Portugal it would run afoul of the legal system, and probably be closed down, obviously. But if the criteria of being in the library - that the book be banned somewhere in the world; that's a reason to visit the library in of itself. Though I think there's going to be a lot of garbage, one need only remember that Life of Brian (the…

Life of Brian is banned from public screening in parts of Germany on Good Friday. https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-news-from-elsewhere-23227452

Re: Dua Lipa opens library for banned and censored books in Portugal

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Post by world2vec »

One of those marketing events in a cool instagramable spot in Oporto that already has huge queues of people just to photograph it and I'm sure it will only sell books in English catered to tourists and nomad tech bros that are already ruining the city's housing supply. Awesome.

Re: Dua Lipa opens library for banned and censored books in Portugal

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Post by Aurornis »

john_strinlai wrote: post #31
Aurornis wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> A quick check here in the States showed all of them available on Amazon for under $25 each. The term “banned books” has become a pop culture meme. In this context it doesn’t literally mean banned, it means the book wasn’t allowed somewhere. In extreme cases a government in a controlling country may have forbidden the book. However in a lot of cases the “banned books” were just not allowed in some school’s library f…

> In this context it doesn’t literally mean banned, it means the book wasn’t allowed somewhere. and what is a good word to use when something isn't allowed somewhere? perhaps... "banned"? i dont understand why people think something needs be unavailable globally to be considered "banned". there's a million examples of the word "banned" being used when X isn't allowed in Y context . people only get touchy about it whe…

The confusion is because some books were literally banned somewhere, while others were just deemed not to be age-appropriate for young children in a school environment.

We don’t call R-rated movies “banned” because we’ve decided not to show it at schools to kids. That’s why it’s confusing when we switch to books and the word “banned” means somebody, somewhere, decided it wasn’t appropriate for kids in their school or something like that.

Re: Dua Lipa opens library for banned and censored books in Portugal

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Post by caseysoftware »

Guthwine wrote: post #19
caseysoftware wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"libraries and educators to forgo specific books" is neither "banning" nor "censoring" In the name of literacy, we need to use words properly.

I believe when most libraries and stores use the term 'ban', they rely on PEN America's definition: "any action taken against a book based on its content and as a result of parent or community challenges, administrative decisions, or in response to direct or threatened action by lawmakers or other governmental officials, that leads to a book being either completely removed from availability to students, or where acce…

Thanks, this is useful.

> "any action taken against a book based on its content and as a result of parent or community challenges, administrative decisions, or in response to direct or threatened action by lawmakers or other governmental officials, that leads to a book being either completely removed from availability to students, or where access to a book is restricted or diminished."

Though this is a fascinating definition.. anytime, anywhere says "no thanks" to carrying a book outside of purely budgetary or physical space limits, it is now a "ban".

The more fascinating question would be discovering the boundary of what PEN, et al consider a "good ban" because I bet we could come up with a few.

Re: Dua Lipa opens library for banned and censored books in Portugal

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Post by 7bit »

buellerbueller wrote: post #27
jnovek wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is censorship if those books are not included for a specific reason. “We aren’t including this book in the library because we don’t have space for every book.” “We aren’t including this book because we don’t think it’s appropriate for kids to learn about trans people.” <—- censorship

Since there are no libraries with space for every book (ever), then there is no censorship?

That's a childish argument.
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