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Nintendo announces new product revisions in Europe with replaceable batteries

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Re: Nintendo announces new product revisions in Europe with replaceable batteries

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The 16% is for the Pro Controller though, to be fair. The Switch 2 itself loses 1% of battery capacity, most other products none at all. Your framing seems a bit selective to the point of being misleading.

16% less battery life in a controller is pretty significant!

At least if you're a heavy gamer like that you can pop a new battery in quickly when the old dies, instead of getting tethered with a cumbersome cable.

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Tangentially, How much would maintaining two different skus cost I wonder.

Working with multiple SKU’s and hardware revisions is standard practice. Just like the Switch and OLED Switch.

PlayStation always had a whole series of SKU’s, from 1 to 5. People sometimes search for a specific one, due to certain chips being used. https://www.psdevwiki.com/ps5/SKU_Models

Similarly the WII is also known to ship several hardware revisions, with different properties such as video output quality.

https://bitbuilt.net/forums/threads/revision-identification-...

The same goes for many electronic products, from TV’s to iPhones. Sometimes the features are noticeably different per revision or region. Still it is called the same product.

Edit: added phone/tv example.

Re: Nintendo announces new product revisions in Europe with replaceable batteries

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To be clear, all the mentioned Nintendo products are already designed for battery replacement, with well-contained battery units and easy connectors, and the batteries are available and problem-free to replace unlike for a certain fruit company. The redesign is because the ease of accessing the batteries did not comply with the new rules. The pro controller in particular requires almost complete disassembly to get to…

Phillips Heads: The design is often criticized for its tendency to cam out at lower torque levels than other "cross head" designs. There has long been a popular belief that this was a deliberate feature of the design, to assemble aluminium aircraft without overtightening the fasteners.[15]: 85 [16] There is no good evidence for this suggestion, and the property is not mentioned in the original patents.[17]

I work with a product that has to use Philips head for one specific area. I hate those damn screws. They all need to be torqued to a specific value and this requires putting an significant amount of force axial to the screw to keep the driver from slipping. If you do slip, you'll probably strip the head and now it needs to be replaced. It doesn't help that there's a gasket around the plate that adds extra running torque. Good luck getting a countersunk #2 screw out. The rest of the product uses hex heads so those are incredibly easy to install.

Re: Nintendo announces new product revisions in Europe with replaceable batteries

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They could've just designed it that way to begin with. Thanks to this regulation, they will the next time around.

A more complicated design costs more money to build/test and introduces more modes of failure in the final product.

The Pinto fix was 11 cents per unit or so.

Get real.

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Battery life is shorter, and some are a tad heavier.

5 years later, after a battery swap, the model with a replaceable battery has a longer battery life than the one stuck with a degraded battery.

The ones with "non replaceable" batteries still has a longer battery life after a battery swap, it just requires a screwdriver and a couple of brain cells.

Re: Nintendo announces new product revisions in Europe with replaceable batteries

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I'm not too worried. Removable batteries were standard fare for decades before Apple came around and set negative precedent. I don't recall it ever causing issues.

I’m happy that my gadgets no longer need expensive AA batteries.

Rechargeable batteries have become very good and very cheap. IKEA sells 4xAA batteries for 8€, made in Japan, last 500-1000 cycles. Many "non-user-serviceable" devices actually have them inside; they're just not accessible without breaking the plastic clips that hold everything together: https://www.pololu.com/category/54/batteries

Re: Nintendo announces new product revisions in Europe with replaceable batteries

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"There is no difference in functionality between current products and revised products containing user-replaceable batteries." So there was nothing "limiting" them from making it already with user-replaceable batteries, they just didn't care enough until EU forced them (like all the smartphone brands). Love EU.

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Re: Nintendo announces new product revisions in Europe with replaceable batteries

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I recently changed the battery of my Switch 1, if for most of the process it was easy, and I really struggled on two points. 1) the plastic part into which the screws are screwed broke, and it is tough to remove them. 2) ungluing the battery with isopropyl alcohol without breaking anything was very long for me. I recently changed the USB port of my Fairphone 4 and it was just unscrewing and screwing. So for me it is…

There's been some recent developments with removing batteries glued to the device: use floss or some other thin string and saw through the glue. The string won't pierce the battery and can fit in tight spots.

I usually just cut a "knife" out of a cereal box and saw back and forth.
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