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Nintendo announces new product revisions in Europe with replaceable batteries

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Re: Nintendo announces new product revisions in Europe with replaceable batteries

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Honestly, amazing stuff. For all the flak that the EU gets this is absolutely an essential regulation

This. The top problems facing the world are gaming consoles' charging sources. Everything else is thankfully solved.

It's not about games consoles. It's about reducing the mountains of e-waste.

We shouldn't be throwing away laptops, smartphones, or consoles - or soon, entire EVs, just because the battery has degraded.

Re: Nintendo announces new product revisions in Europe with replaceable batteries

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I think the more likely explanation is that there was not sufficient market motiviation to include the additional requirement of a user-swappable battery. ie. people care, but they don't care enough or in enough volume for Nintendo to decide it's required. I celebrate user-swappable batteries and I think I like the battery regulations. I just don't think the Ghost of Iwata is under your bed twirling a Wario moustache…

Consumers do not decide anything, they will buy whatever is in the store.

That's not true, they decide which one of the bad options they want to buy…

Re: Nintendo announces new product revisions in Europe with replaceable batteries

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Compulsory Apple-defending post is compulsory. Non-replaceable batteries are worse for consumers and worse for the environment. The fact that you "do not miss" a better world, does not mean it is not better.

> Non-replaceable batteries Most batteries are replaceable. The difference is the level of effort involved.

Replacing a Switch 1 battery really annoyed me. No problem with tiny screws and fiddly disassembly.

Big problem with the truly excessive amount and strength of adhesive holding the old one in place, and having a real struggle to remove it (even after trying with IPA and dental floss)

Re: Nintendo announces new product revisions in Europe with replaceable batteries

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This. The top problems facing the world are gaming consoles' charging sources. Everything else is thankfully solved.

It's not about games consoles. It's about reducing the mountains of e-waste. We shouldn't be throwing away laptops, smartphones, or consoles - or soon, entire EVs, just because the battery has degraded.

All of those things can be recycled and almost all of them can be replaced whether or not its end-user-servicable.

Re: Nintendo announces new product revisions in Europe with replaceable batteries

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Is it? >Battery capacity: 5172mAh, approximately 1% smaller than current version (5220mAh)

Quoting just one of the smallest one feels a bit... charged. There's small tradeoffs among all of them when you account for weight. For everyone else here's the full list: Switch 2 Battery capacity: 5172mAh, approximately 1% smaller than current version (5220mAh) Weight: Approximately 411g, around 10g heavier than current version With Joy-Con 2 controllers attached: Approximately 548g, around 14g heavier than current…

They quoted what matters the most as it's for a device which has single shortest runtime on a battery: the Switch console itself.

Because who cares if the controller lasts 27 or 30 days? (Or so, don't quite me on exact numbers).

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I don't understand why battery failure is a "when". The only batteries I've ever had fail in rechargeable electronic devices were replaceable packs where water got into the compartment. Perhaps I've just gotten lucky?

The Switch 1 is almost 10 years old. Batteries don't have that much longevity. And it was unnecessarily hard (actually dangerous due to fire risk) to replace it with a 3rd-party battery replacement due to excessive amounts of strong adhesive holding the battery in place.

My launch Switch 1 battery is still working. Capacity is probably 80% or less but it still works fine.

Re: Nintendo announces new product revisions in Europe with replaceable batteries

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Brussels effect, please do your magic; thanks.

Brussels effect, please do your magic; thanks. "Brussels Effect" is the new "California Emissions."

Please keep the conversation merit based.

Re: Nintendo announces new product revisions in Europe with replaceable batteries

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"There is no difference in functionality between current products and revised products containing user-replaceable batteries." So there was nothing "limiting" them from making it already with user-replaceable batteries, they just didn't care enough until EU forced them (like all the smartphone brands). Love EU.

Battery life is shorter, and some are a tad heavier.

5 years later, after a battery swap, the model with a replaceable battery has a longer battery life than the one stuck with a degraded battery.

Re: Nintendo announces new product revisions in Europe with replaceable batteries

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> like all the smartphone brands But there is at least some argument that smartphones nowadays have some pretty crazy waterproofness that I'm not sure is physically possible with a replaceable battery?

This is not true. There are old replaceable-battery dumbphones that were rated in feet of submersion.

We love to mock flat-earthers but believe it or not there are many people on HN who don't believe gaskets are a real thing.
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