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Re: Python 3.14 compiled to metal – no interpreter

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post #56

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Someone pays for the AI? That's the new human maintainer.

Hypothetically, maybe. In practice, probably not.

If it's valuable enough to someone, and it isn't keeping up, someone will pay. If it's not valuable enough for someone to pay, then who cares?

Re: Python 3.14 compiled to metal – no interpreter

#74
post #51

A few problems with this Fable's project: 1. It's not Python by any means, it's a subset with its own runtime, its own quirks and nuances; 2. It will be impossible to maintain parity with CPython without AI assistance; 3. It will die the same way as dozens of similar (even non-AI projects) died before, and reasons will be the same: (1) and (2).

>1. It's not Python by any means, it's a subset with its own runtime, its own quirks and nuances; A subset of python is python. Half a tomato is still tomato >2. It will be impossible to maintain parity with CPython without AI assistance What does that even mean? If you would have said that it's impossible to update to python 3.15 of further, I'd get it.

> A subset of python is python.

Mojo folks (rightly) disagree.

Re: Python 3.14 compiled to metal – no interpreter

#75
post #19

Can those AI slop projects have a reserved tag on HackerNews? So many in the past few weeks I wouldn't have clicked and wasted my time on if I knew it was just some vibe-coded garbage.

I see the same thing, and believe that ironically AI is going to bring about the return of good search engines as we’re currently drowning in slop and need a real way to filter it.

How would a search engine filter that out?

Re: Python 3.14 compiled to metal – no interpreter

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post #70
post #36

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> when it's vibed it works, until it doesn't and then it's really hard to make it work again Is it? People have solved AI bugs with AI. If some vibe project eventually hits some bug and stops working, what exactly stops using AI to fix it? Is the idea that bugs will go beyond the limits of AI capability? If you meant to say that when an AI vibe coded project beyond some complexity it's difficult for a human coder to…

AI companies are unable to fix the bugs in their own text editors for years… no AI cannot fix bugs, clearly.

Doesn't matter what AI companies do, since AI companies just "move fast and break things" not caring for bug fixing but for iterating quickly on their agents. That's a business decision, not an AI limitation.

If you use AI yourself, with a focus on bug fixing and stability, you'll find that AI can fix bugs just fine.

Re: Python 3.14 compiled to metal – no interpreter

#77
post #2

I hate to be that guy, but... one week old project, clear signs of vibing. I will be shocked if the remaining work listed (cpython test suite) proceeds in any reasonable timeline. This is a pretty hard problem to just solve in a week. EDIT: and man, these kind of comments LLM created comments are really starting to grind my gears as my job slowly turns into reviewing LLM PRs: > Known gaps at the language level are bu…

These tics are fairly easy to remove via hooks and prompts, but once the codebase is infected, it is 10x as much work to get the agents to stop.

Re: Python 3.14 compiled to metal – no interpreter

#79
post #14

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"Without ai assistance" - ok, but what about with ai assistance?

For a project like this, relying on AI assistance also makes it effectively dead in the water.

Good luck implementing and then maintaining a project of this size and complexity at ~100 lines of verified code per human developer per day.

Re: Python 3.14 compiled to metal – no interpreter

#80
post #39

>> The project is under heavy active development Is a pretty oof sentence for a project with one contributor and no users. Just reeks of llm barf with no oversight.

I am a fan of AI assistance, but “ratchet” is pretty much a Claude giveaway. The kids, now in their twenties because the reference is dated, might make a joke here.

It says ratchet so much. Yeah that's pretty ratchet. Idk what it even means for some of those usages.
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