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What does Jeff Bezos think is going to happen?

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Re: What does Jeff Bezos think is going to happen?

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Post by Aarostotle »

OsrsNeedsf2P wrote: post #9
__MatrixMan__ wrote: post #4

> Well, from now on the workflow will be: > - Find the book I want on Amazon. > - Buy it. > - Find the same book on a torrent site. > - Download it. > - Physically copy it onto the Kindle via a USB cable. Wait a second... you're rewarding Amazon and the publisher for their bad behavior by continuing to buy from Amazon? Nothing about this plan is discouraging the problem. Cut out the middlemen. Torrent it and send the…

Right? I never understood why people think it's morally right to buy books/movies/music from predatory service providers

It’s very simple.

They purchased the right to distribute the books on their terms.

You don’t like the terms, so you call them predatory. You want the product, so you just take it on your own terms.

Morally, that’s no different than your employer just deciding to pay you less than your contract states, because he decides he doesn’t like the terms of the agreement anymore.

You don’t gain a right to take things just because you want them or need them.

Re: What does Jeff Bezos think is going to happen?

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Post by Dumblydorr »

bluefirebrand wrote: post #21
pyrale wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you want to stick it to Jeff, the best part is to give/lend/sell them once you've read them. Or even better, get them from the (public) library.

Jeff doesn't care what you do after you've already given him the money though Yes, you prevent him from selling a copy to your friend, but he already has your money!

Jeff doesn’t care what you do period. They’re in another plane, it’s some poor schmucks now with only a few million fighting for table scraps of the billionaires who don’t care.

Re: What does Jeff Bezos think is going to happen?

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Post by bogrollben »

I have an older kindle and I can still load it with epubs by emailing the unique kindle address. I think there are other ways too, via USB for example.

My understanding is that it's only downloading via the amazon kindle store that is no longer supported for devices that are considered end-of-life, which makes sense to me personally. The kindle web browser is probably based on an ancient android version of chrome. That browser is not going to last forever.

Re: What does Jeff Bezos think is going to happen?

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Post by randallsquared »

__MatrixMan__ wrote: post #11
stavros wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The next sentence says: > And it can hardly escape anyone’s notice that I would achieve exactly the same end-state — the book on my Kindle — if I just skipped the first two stages.

Sure but why pussyfoot around the issue? We should be actively encouraging each other to punish misbehaving companies. It's the right thing to do. They're deaf to anything besides pain. If you want to help your fellow humans, you need to inflict that pain. Otherwise the company won't change.

The poster isn't pussyfooting around the issue, he's feigning discovery to emphasize the point as a rhetorical move.

Re: What does Jeff Bezos think is going to happen?

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Post by InsideOutSanta »

__MatrixMan__ wrote: post #4

> Well, from now on the workflow will be: > - Find the book I want on Amazon. > - Buy it. > - Find the same book on a torrent site. > - Download it. > - Physically copy it onto the Kindle via a USB cable. Wait a second... you're rewarding Amazon and the publisher for their bad behavior by continuing to buy from Amazon? Nothing about this plan is discouraging the problem. Cut out the middlemen. Torrent it and send the…

As somebody who wrote a book in the past, yes, this. Give Amazon no money. If you want to spend money because pirating makes you feel bad, send a few bucks to the author, buy something on the publisher's store, or go to your local book store and spend some money there.

But never feel bad about not sending money to Amazon.

Re: What does Jeff Bezos think is going to happen?

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Post by paul7986 »

joe_mamba wrote: post #22
__MatrixMan__ wrote: post #4

> Well, from now on the workflow will be: > - Find the book I want on Amazon. > - Buy it. > - Find the same book on a torrent site. > - Download it. > - Physically copy it onto the Kindle via a USB cable. Wait a second... you're rewarding Amazon and the publisher for their bad behavior by continuing to buy from Amazon? Nothing about this plan is discouraging the problem. Cut out the middlemen. Torrent it and send the…

>Cut out the middlemen. Torrent it and send the author some money. If this is the ideal model, why don't authors skip the middleman themselves and just put the .pdf/.epub on their website directly in exchange for donations? On the same note, why do game devs need to give Steam 30% of their money and not just sell to the public directly and pocket the 30%? Maybe because those middlemen platforms provide a combination…

or use Cloudflare's "Pay Per Use," tech so real humans and or more so AI sucking up your content for free is forced to pay you something to gain access.

Re: What does Jeff Bezos think is going to happen?

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Post by shinycode »

__MatrixMan__ wrote: post #4

> Well, from now on the workflow will be: > - Find the book I want on Amazon. > - Buy it. > - Find the same book on a torrent site. > - Download it. > - Physically copy it onto the Kindle via a USB cable. Wait a second... you're rewarding Amazon and the publisher for their bad behavior by continuing to buy from Amazon? Nothing about this plan is discouraging the problem. Cut out the middlemen. Torrent it and send the…

Actually if authors could sell directly I’ll gladly buy from them each and every time and cut off the middle man.
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