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Re: GPT-5.6 Sol Ultra will be in Codex

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Post by Iolaum »

bananaflag wrote: post #256
rowanG077 wrote: post #241

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The big problem is that a person making a mistake can be taught to not make that mistake again. That's also not foolproof but at least it works a lot of the times. AI are unteachable, if you have given them a good prompt and they do something wrong 90% of the time you are shit out of luck. That is to say I do agree that building reliable processes out of unreliable parts with feedback is the modus operandi. However A…

Indeed. Any meaningful AGI/ASI will have to have a form of memory / continual learning. Sam Altman said last year that this will be the focus for GPT-6. The whole "soul.md" stuff today is a poor approximation to that. But I wonder whether it will grow into it, like chain of thought prompting grew into reasoning models.

LLM's as a technology - currently - are stateless. The memory layer is controlled by the agent. I m surprised with the gpt-6 reference unless it has to do with vertical integration between the agent and the layer.

Re: GPT-5.6 Sol Ultra will be in Codex

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Post by karahime »

rowanG077 wrote: post #241
barrkel wrote: post #186

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People are stochastic. You build reliable processes out of unreliable parts with feedback and self-correcting mechanisms. AI is not actually magically special in this regard. It has higher variance and we're still figuring out how to get all the tradeoffs right.

The big problem is that a person making a mistake can be taught to not make that mistake again. That's also not foolproof but at least it works a lot of the times. AI are unteachable, if you have given them a good prompt and they do something wrong 90% of the time you are shit out of luck. That is to say I do agree that building reliable processes out of unreliable parts with feedback is the modus operandi. However A…

I don't know of any modern workflows that rely on "we'll tell the person not to do it again", though. There's a reason that companies have adopted blameless postmortems, because if your response to the DB going down is "It's fine, Kevin learns and next time he won't misuse the prod credentials", you are guaranteeing prod will go down again in the same way at some point.

Re: GPT-5.6 Sol Ultra will be in Codex

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Post by d4rkp4ttern »

andai wrote: post #64
ludamad wrote: post #9

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I imagine this is something like Anthropic's dynamic workflows where a JS file is created to make a little AI harness on the spot

Wow, I hadn't heard of this! const audits = await pipeline(found.files, file => agent(`Audit ${file} for missing authentication checks.`, { label: file }), ) I asked Claude in the browser if it could do anything like that. It wrote a little frontend app that calls the Anthropic API (with fetch()), without including a key. I expected that to fail, but it worked! Apparently in the web chat (and also in Claude Code?[0]…

My understanding is that in the generated JS code, the subagents are invoked as headless Claude, equivalent to Claude -p, or the agents SDK.

Re: GPT-5.6 Sol Ultra will be in Codex

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Post by _zoltan_ »

aetherspawn wrote: post #22
behnamoh wrote: post #14

I still don't know why OpenAI doesn't put gpt-5.5-pro in Codex. It's one hell of a model and easily parallels Fable/Mythos. Sure, it'll use up your quota much faster but that's the price some users are willing to pay for absolutely high quality responses. I think gpt-5.5-pro runs 12x parallel gpt-5.5 agents behind the scene and uses OpenAI's secret sauce to synthesize their answers into one insanely good response.

Is it as good as Fable..? Fable is the first model that mostly writes without the AI slop format for me, and so I can comfortably actually copy and paste most of what it spits out. OpenAI models have always been the worst in my experience for verbose, slop formatted responses, with each generation increasing in sloppiness.

Copy and paste...? In mid-2026? Why on earth would you copy and paste code instead of having the cli tool to the coding end to end?

I haven't opened an IDE in 8 months or so and have no plans to go back.

Re: GPT-5.6 Sol Ultra will be in Codex

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Post by _zoltan_ »

holoduke wrote: post #105
llelouch wrote: post #57

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Still avialable through the API. According to people that have tried both Fable nad 5.6, Fable is clearly better at coding. So i expect a lot of people to pay extra for it.

Who is going to pay API prices for using Claude? I don't know one single company. It's not gonna happen.

Every large enterprise?

Who do you think pays for your subscription's actual usage?

Re: GPT-5.6 Sol Ultra will be in Codex

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Post by CuriouslyC »

breezybottom wrote: post #41
hn_user2 wrote: post #36

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Humans use em dash as well. I hate that I have had to remove it from my writing style because people assume it’s AI generated. But I think that ship has sailed. I’ll have to do without now.

Parentheses usually read better anyway.

Parens are ok for short asides (like this) but unreadable for longer asides and not usable for compound sentences like the emdash. Unfortunately, neither ellipses nor semicolons can exactly replace the compounding ability of the emdash, I find the best option without it is often to just split a sentence in two.

Re: GPT-5.6 Sol Ultra will be in Codex

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Post by MallocVoidstar »

embedding-shape wrote: post #250
MallocVoidstar wrote: post #245

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There's something like 20 companies with access.

Isn't it like 99% sure all those companies got that access to it together with NDAs and other goodies?

Some of them will publicly break it for whatever reason, an NVIDIA engineer (@blelbach) recently made some posts on X about his results using 5.6 Sol Ultra to optimize stuff and then deleted them shortly after (presumably got yelled at).

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Post by whh »

throw394042 wrote: post #30

I'm working in large US corporation. And I see that I already have access to 5.6-Sol Ultra on my corporate account. I haven't really used it yet. 2 months ago management was showing us scoreboards, praising leaders who used most tokens. Last few weeks, we're getting weekly emails, telling us that whenever we can - we should use cheaper models, and that we should watch the page which shows our tokens usage.

Apologies for sounding like a billboard, but this is exactly why we built https://flowstate.inc/

Re: GPT-5.6 Sol Ultra will be in Codex

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Post by chillfox »

nl wrote: post #243
chillfox wrote: post #180

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Maybe because it will make people abroad like you less and that has flow-on effects, mostly economic.

I think that applies to military involvement abroad generally. If you are dropping bombs on someone I'm unconvinced the use of AI will make them like you more or less.

For sure, I am assuming they spy on a lot more people than they drop bombs on.

I remember a long time ago it came out that the US had been doing mass spying on the Danish people, my dad was very upset about it and disliked the US for the rest of his life. Of course the only thing he did about it was not watch American movies anymore or visit the US.

Anyway, I assume it will be a case of a million little paper cuts, each thing putting off a group of people until someday it adds up to real meaningful economic impact.

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