Since when Zuckerberg is an AI expert?
Zuckerberg says AI agent development going slower than expected
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Re: Zuckerberg says AI agent development going slower than expected
#372I was worried this time last year that by this time this year, companies would have slashed their engineering teams down to a handful and everything would be driven by mostly autonomous agents with human guidance. But it just hasn't happened. Do I write all my code with an agent now? Yes. Can you just give an agent a desired outcome and let it work, unsupervised? Absolutely not. I can produce more code than I used to…
Do you mean that to implement the same features, the agents write 2-3 times as much code as a human would write before?
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#373Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why would Zuckerberg want to boost their AI, they have none to speak of after Llama really? Zuckerberg actually has every expectation to downplay AI so as to save face that Llama failed compared to frontier models.
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The real article is at https://finance.yahoo.com/technology/ai/articles/exclusive-z... and he indeed is talking about his company's in house agentic development products, regardless of what you specifically said, as we are discussing what he said.
Who said the layoffs were a success? It's a short term fix (or correction from pandemic hiring) that may still nevertheless have long term consequences.
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#374Zuckerberg is proof you only need to get really lucky once. He's basically flailed at leading facebook ever since, going all in on monumentally dumb bets and erratically making headcount and project decisions, and still he somehow keeps getting richer.
People who never built a company have the craziest takes on company building, I swear.
You talking about me?
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#375Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't like Zuckerberg at all but Instagram and WhatsApp purchases were _very_ good calls
> Instagram and WhatsApp purchases were _very_ good calls Elementary call when you have the data no-one else has thanks to illicit means and explicitly decided on a buy or bury strategy
A very HN comment... At the time, almost nobody felt spending billions acquiring these companies was "elementary". Instagram was bought so early that spending a billion on a startup was unheard of. And WhatsApp was so expensive that they questioned Zuck's sanity.
You mention two strategic enablers that made these unusual acquisitions seem obvious to FB leadership. So were those two not good calls?
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#376Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah, and he threw a huge bunch of cash to acquire them. pretty easy to acquire. Harder to build. He got lucky with facebook because myspace sucked. Good timing.
I always hear reverence around Myspace. Is it really rose-tinted nostalgia? It seemed like a cool core product.
...but most of all, Samy is my hero!
Re: Zuckerberg says AI agent development going slower than expected
#377Earlier quoted context omitted.
Friend, you are commenting on a thread where one of the most prominent figures in tech (rightly or wrongly) is saying something did not meet expectations. As far as we can tell this is a man with every incentive to exaggerate and boost these products. In my world, when something is expensive and doesn’t meet expectations it called a failure. Especially when something has been as hyped, scrutinized, defended and attac…
Why are you assuming Zuck's expectations for progress of _his_ product have anything to do with the impact of that category of product for its users?
Pretty sure Zuck was talking about agents in general, not specifically Meta agents.
Re: Zuckerberg says AI agent development going slower than expected
#378Zuckerberg is proof you only need to get really lucky once. He's basically flailed at leading facebook ever since, going all in on monumentally dumb bets and erratically making headcount and project decisions, and still he somehow keeps getting richer.
You know that a lot of acquisitions is equity hire. How do you get engineers to be excited about fixing something low level in Facebook, a hard task; you don't. Better to wrap those problems in green field projects and have engineers excited, and adopt that tech back into Facebook. Google done this forever (DeepMind). Seems like the work of a genius?
Zuckerbergs comment from 2010: «We have not once bought a company for the company. We buy companies to get excellent people.»
Re: Zuckerberg says AI agent development going slower than expected
#379I think what everyone underestimated was the absolute bonkers amount of compute it will take and how that compute must scale in order to keep up with larger and larger models.
More than that, I think people overestimate how much AI will progress as you throw more compute at it. It’s the “9 women can’t deliver a baby in a month” equivalent of AI. Additional compute won’t magically give you AGI.
How do you know though? People thought ANNs and perceptrons were basically useless until pretty much around the time of AlexNet and while there were some architectural improvements (CNNs, transformers), the biggest thing that changed was that we simply threw more compute at it.
It's definitely too early to declare that more compute won't make a difference.
Re: Zuckerberg says AI agent development going slower than expected
#380> he expects that the social media giant will begin to experience more significant benefits from its AI investments within the next three to six months. He is hallucinating just like AI, and unable to come to terms with the facts on the ground. Meta has lost plot about 5 years back - with metaverse, VR, glasses and AI. They should sit back and think with a calm head, about what exactly their core product is. Unfortun…
> ...about what exactly their core product is.
It's ads. They have an infinite money glitch called ads, allowing them to waste billions chasing other pipe dreams. The fact that so many of those pipe dreams turned into nothing doesn't hurt them one bit.