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The future of Flipper Zero development

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Re: The future of Flipper Zero development

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I don't have any commenting tactics except spotting the opportunity to slip in a joke. I think it's kind wild that a big thread raging about furries has spawned from the blog post of a hardware company making some quirky RF hardware.

my bad, thats pretty funny when read correctly. you are correct, it wasn't appropriate of me to have kicked this off here, dang should wipe the whole comment chain. for the record, flipper zero is designed for western kids to wreak internal havoc, product dev applicability is secondary

No worries! I imagine this comment chain is already "flagged" or whatever anyway.

Re: The future of Flipper Zero development

#143

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> Is the Flipper Zero community tightly intertwined with the furry community? That is my conclusion. They are raising much-needed awareness about that underrepresented group.

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I understand you have personal reasons for having strong feelings about this. But the guidelines still apply, otherwise there'd be no point in having them. The problem with posting comments in an inflammatory, enraged style is that the substantive point gets lost in the emotional noise. I'm not sure if there's a viable way to share your experience in a form that is compatible with HN's ideal of curious conversation, but if there is, the style of this comment is certainly not it.

The particular parts of the guidelines we need you to pay attention to are:

Be kind. Don't be snarky. Converse curiously; don't cross-examine. Edit out swipes.

Comments should get more thoughtful and substantive, not less, as a topic gets more divisive.

Please don't fulminate. Please don't sneer, including at the rest of the community.

Eschew flamebait. Avoid generic tangents. Omit internet tropes.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: The future of Flipper Zero development

#145

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That makes sense. And I do strongly believe in the "virtuous circle" bit: people who aren't OK with others being themselves tend not to feel comfortable at, or get invited back to, events. That would make it more comfortable for the next event's attendees, making it less pleasant for the remaining pains in the necks, and so on. I've participated in conversations like: Q: Why do rightwing websites keep getting hacked?…

Kind of transgressive to go from „someone not being ok with something“ to „so that’s totally fine to hack them“.

You seem to misunderstand the logic flow of why the right-wing bigots' infrastructure is repeatedly getting hacked.

They don't get hacked specifically because of who they treat poorly, but because the very people who they treat poorly won't work for them. The subset of the population of whom they are publicly abusive and disrespectful is over-represented in the top performing defensive programmers.

point A > They wont hire from this subset of the population - which excludes a significant portion of infosec top talent. The neurodivergent talent pool that is adjacent to that subgroup, which itself may not be the direct targets of the abusive behavior is also over-represented in the top talent pool is less likely to feel comfortable supporting these clients.

point 2 > The remaining talent pool is thus a less concentrated distribution of top performing infosec professionals. Not that any individuals in this group are less capable in particular, but that the mean distribution of capability is somewhat lower in the remaining group.

point D > Hackers are prolific and adept at finding the least secure aspects of infrastructure, by definition. The concentration of talent in the hacking community probably follows the same distribution curves. This creates a subset of hackers with a motive to target both the less well prepared organizations, and have a negative opinion of those less prepared organizations with a history of abusive behaviour towards groups with which the subset of high performing hackers strongly identify or associate.

> Bigots, racists, far-right-wing Republican organizations get hacked. [Perhaps more frequently - unsubstantiated]. Apparently, because the outcomes of self-identification as intolerant asshats makes their specific infrastructure both an easy target for hackers of any orientation, and a preferred easy target for hackers opposed to bigotry, racism, and far-right-wing Republican organizations.

Period

Re: The future of Flipper Zero development

#146

Flipper Zero is one of the handiest little pieces of tech I’ve ever owned. Being able to copy RFID keys is occasionally fantastically useful.

Is... that possible? I thought the whole point is that those were a challenge-response specifically to avoid ever them disclosing over the air the material necessary to impersonate one.

As others have said, most are dumb, some just slightly less so. A few captured nonce values and a dictionary attack will crack most with ease.

Re: The future of Flipper Zero development

#147

Tough spot with community that expects firmware updates while hardware sells only once

Which is just another way of saying "this is why most developers prefer subscriptions over one-time sales"

Yeah, they do, but an actually fair to all sides model is that of one-time sales coupled with optional paid-for updates.

Re: The future of Flipper Zero development

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Which is just another way of saying "this is why most developers prefer subscriptions over one-time sales"

Yeah, they do, but an actually fair to all sides model is that of one-time sales coupled with optional paid-for updates.

That's basically a variant of a subscription, but one where the end user churns aggressively.

It's worse in many ways too - it's a lot harder to gauge interest as the developer to understand how well any update will sell, and if the updates "stack", then a user only pays for the newest update to get all older features free. It's also worse from a cashflow perspective for the developer (but better for consumer) since they have to pre-build the update before any chance of getting paid for it.

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