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Cannabis users face substantially higher risk of heart attack (2025)

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Not to mention cocaine.

Pfff. Try food. People naively say "weed is a gateway to other drugs", meaning cocaine. In practice, the biggest drug it opens the highway to is food. A stoner would smoke half-a-joint and then easily eat a pound of processed meat, then send a whole bag of chips down the hatch, washing it down with two or three pints of beer, and twenty minutes later will be eating ice cream directly from the bucket. Food is the wors…

> A stoner would smoke half-a-joint and then easily eat a pound of processed meat, then send a whole bag of chips down the hatch, washing it down with two or three pints of beer, and twenty minutes later will be eating ice cream directly from the bucket.

I'd like to say that's a little bit of an exaggeration but I also feel like a joint and $25 for taco bell at 1am wouldn't help my case...

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> researchers were unable to account for several potential confounding factors including the duration and amount of cannabis use or the use of tobacco or other drugs. Personally I'd wager a bet it's the tobacco and/or smoking that is the harmful part, but it kind of dumbfounds me they failed to account for "details" like "duration and amount of cannabis use", that feels like a very vital thing to control for. Nothing…

The physical act of smoking itself is harmful. Not just tobacco specifically, burning and inhaling anything.

There are of course other delivery methods with different trade offs and generally less harmful but it seems to me as if smoking is still most common.

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It comes down to the old saying for doctors, "when you hear hoofbeats, think horses, not zebras." Rare and dangerous things often manifest in ways that look really similar to relatively harmless and common things. Go forward with the most probable explanation and you're not only going to be right the overwhelming majority of the time, but also keep costs and stresses down for patients. Only when somebody does show up…

If zebras cause blindness, perhaps you should consider zebras?

Everyone who follows The Pitt knows what a Differential Diagnosis is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Differential_diagnosis

i.e. is there a symptom, question or quick, cost-effective and reliable test that can distinguish horses from Zebras in this situation.

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That is an opinion. I for one prefer talking to a happy, healthy mind, healthy body-type over someone with a life riddled with substance experiments. In fact, it was why I hardly talked to some of my family for a long time. Every weekend was the same, they were always angry and in the end they nearly killed themselves. I'm happy they got out of it and we have a much better relation now.

this is your opinion too.

For sure, based on my experiences.

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Exactly. Being unable to account for this covariate (tobacco use) pretty much invalidates this analysis. The odds ratio for tobacco use is basically the same (3x). Also, title needs a 2025.

This article refers to two studies. The retrospective study of 4.6 million people did account for tobacco use. > The findings are from a retrospective study of over 4.6 million people published in JACC Advances and a meta-analysis of 12 previously published studies being presented at the American College of Cardiology's Annual Scientific Session (ACC.25). > Kamel and his team conducted the retrospective study using d…

We had a homie cannabis user, who rarely left his desk or couch and two other homie cannabis users who wouldn't stop doing renovation in their apartment and who were out doing sports with the da ladies all the time. They smoked up and went for a run at 11:30 P.M. what?

I assume guy 1 has a significantly higher chance of whatever, despite now trading lots of money ... while the other two still do what they did, with teen kids and Moms and all that ...

it's not the cannabis.

hey do your bodies crave liquor when you suffer from a blood knot? but stop when it's gone?

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Not to mention cocaine.

Pfff. Try food. People naively say "weed is a gateway to other drugs", meaning cocaine. In practice, the biggest drug it opens the highway to is food. A stoner would smoke half-a-joint and then easily eat a pound of processed meat, then send a whole bag of chips down the hatch, washing it down with two or three pints of beer, and twenty minutes later will be eating ice cream directly from the bucket. Food is the wors…

What are you talking about?

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Is there something that can help a habitual cannabis user stop? GLP1s maybe?

If I have cannabis on hand I will use it. But if I just don't buy it it's pretty easy to do without. Nothing at all like nicotine, which will consume your entire consciousness with cravings.

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quite a few people I know consume edibles as the main form of cannabis. but it seems underrepresented in all the studies I've seen so far. as several others have pointed out, you would think the act of smoking would itself have nontrivial effects on health

One can also use vapes. I avoid the cartridge types as I don't want to guess what was used to process them. Instead I use a simple flower vape which on the face of it should be less bad than say smoking from a joint or bong. Gummies and other edibles though require processing in the liver before they become active in the body (they are converted to a slightly different form of THC) so you would need to consider wheth…

I really don't understand why anyone who has the means to buy a decent dry herb vape smokes it. I have a friend who's a daily smoker who just refuses to make the change. Has an absolutely terrible cough and yet he persists with smoking.
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