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Re: The future of Flipper Zero development

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Post by Aachen »

mikepurvis wrote: post #13
natbennett wrote: post #2

Flipper Zero is one of the handiest little pieces of tech I’ve ever owned. Being able to copy RFID keys is occasionally fantastically useful.

Is... that possible? I thought the whole point is that those were a challenge-response specifically to avoid ever them disclosing over the air the material necessary to impersonate one.

You're thinking of NFC, not RFID, and with NFC the owner might not have changed the default keys.

It's a common mix-up (people barely differentiate between the terms anymore, though I'm surprised nobody in 2 hours mentioned it yet), basically RFID is (historically) an ID; a username. Like an ID field in a database. NFC is near-field communication: bidirectional. It does challenge-response and typically runs on hardened chips. But yeah people will call NFC chips RFID and RFID chips NFC all the time. Both are waterproof devices doing radio transmissions on wireless power and you can't tell them apart without using some equipment to try and read the chip type (even if most phones can do that nowadays), so I can understand the terminology generalisation

Re: The future of Flipper Zero development

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Post by UqWBcuFx6NV4r »

nekusar wrote: post #33
rufo wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Given they’ve had several skirmishes with customs and law enforcement agencies around the world, this always struck me as similar to the “don’t talk about installing retail Switch games on the Switch modding Discord” type of deal - everyone knows you can do that, but allowing mentions in official channels opens us to liability and causes nothing but headaches for both us and for customers, so if you’re going to do th…

Its one thing to have a skid come in going "I wanna hack the RFID on the gubbmints's doors how can i do that?" Versus "we forked the firmware to include a wide range of pentesting tools" And then get banned for even saying the alternate firmware. And seriously, this little thing is a wonderful hacker multitool. You can seriously fuck shit up with the hardware they included. For fucks sake, thats WHY they created it.

Absolutely nothing you said refutes anything in the comment you’re replying to. You are just reiterating “I’m angry and this is stupid”. Go write in your journal or something. It’s impossible to engage with someone who isn’t engaging themselves.

Re: The future of Flipper Zero development

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Post by embedding-shape »

thin_carapace wrote: post #66
CursedSilicon wrote: post #56

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Ah, the "I don't hate the gays I just wish they'd keep that at home!"

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> why is it okay for sex fetishists to act out sex fetishes in public around kids?

I don't think that's what furries generally do, nor homosexuals for that part, unless you count holding hands or kissing each other on the mouth as "acting out sex fetishes in public"? I don't think I've seen that even once, but living in a "party city", I've more than once seen drunk heterosexual couples having sex in the streets and in the metro.

Re: The future of Flipper Zero development

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Post by ActorNightly »

yjftsjthsd-h wrote: post #4

> TL;DR: We've allocated resources to maintain Flipper Zero firmware and support community contributions. Is that the tldr? It sure sounds like it's still on minimal life support.

Why would you need any support for things that are fully open source and flashable yourself?

Most everyone who has a flipper runs something like Unleashed firmware, and most of the functionality is in the apps that people built, not in the actual firmware.

Re: The future of Flipper Zero development

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Post by embedding-shape »

bigiain wrote: post #65
nekusar wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Its one thing to have a skid come in going "I wanna hack the RFID on the gubbmints's doors how can i do that?" Versus "we forked the firmware to include a wide range of pentesting tools" And then get banned for even saying the alternate firmware. And seriously, this little thing is a wonderful hacker multitool. You can seriously fuck shit up with the hardware they included. For fucks sake, thats WHY they created it.

Any advice on good communities or sources of (reliable) information on alternative firmwares and pen testing type tools?

IRC is still alive and there is bunch of communities around that are a bit more lax, probably because they're half-dead compared to what they used to be. Today probabably Libera.chat would be the best introduction if you haven't touched IRC before.

Re: The future of Flipper Zero development

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Post by ButlerianJihad »

nekusar wrote: post #33
rufo wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Given they’ve had several skirmishes with customs and law enforcement agencies around the world, this always struck me as similar to the “don’t talk about installing retail Switch games on the Switch modding Discord” type of deal - everyone knows you can do that, but allowing mentions in official channels opens us to liability and causes nothing but headaches for both us and for customers, so if you’re going to do th…

Its one thing to have a skid come in going "I wanna hack the RFID on the gubbmints's doors how can i do that?" Versus "we forked the firmware to include a wide range of pentesting tools" And then get banned for even saying the alternate firmware. And seriously, this little thing is a wonderful hacker multitool. You can seriously fuck shit up with the hardware they included. For fucks sake, thats WHY they created it.

“Furries Forking Flipper Firmware” sounds like a promising and/or true and/or Garden-Path headline

Re: The future of Flipper Zero development

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Post by post-it »

rebolek wrote: post #40
dimbletimbers wrote: post #38

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It’s definitely a meme if nothing else that the cybersecurity community has a distribution of furries that would not reflect the general population’s.

Is there some study to explain why? Do they feel more safer pretending to be human sized...furry animal?

Closest they can get to piloting a mech.

Re: The future of Flipper Zero development

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Post by thin_carapace »

embedding-shape wrote: post #74
thin_carapace wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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> why is it okay for sex fetishists to act out sex fetishes in public around kids? I don't think that's what furries generally do, nor homosexuals for that part, unless you count holding hands or kissing each other on the mouth as "acting out sex fetishes in public"? I don't think I've seen that even once, but living in a "party city", I've more than once seen drunk heterosexual couples having sex in the streets and…

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