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Cannabis users face substantially higher risk of heart attack (2025)

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Post by anal_reactor »

teekert wrote: post #27

I wonder about all the confounding effects. In my country (famous for cannabis to be easy to come by (for decades already), and I saw many smoke from age 16 up as I grew up in 90's, 00's). I have always felt that the heavy cannabis smokers had something to compensate; stress, unrest, impending depression, friction with parents. It was never the healthy sporty types with fulfilling relationships, good grades or a nice…

> I have always felt that the heavy cannabis smokers had something to compensate

I am lonely. Weed makes me to fucked to care.

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Post by altairprime »

Gave myself temporary afib with pot, wore an Apple Watch for five years to confirm a hard stop resolved the afib (it eventually did after a few months with no changes in dietary/activity and I continued monitoring for five years), sold the Apple Watch. Turns out my adhd’s addiction resistance has the unfortunate downside of being able to OD on pot without noticing it. Glad to see science caught up. No confounding factors like nicotine et al, no recurrence since.

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Post by goodroot »

sscaryterry wrote: post #214
goodroot wrote: post #85

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There's a saying: don't throw stones if you live in a glass house. The same human mind that rationalizes the intake of substances is the same one that rationalizes social networks, junk food, eating meat, whatever it is. I wouldn't be so quick to condescend. At some point in time, it's important to realize that not everyone optimizes for longevity, correctness, rationalism, and so on, and they just simply do what mak…

That just sucks, sorry to hear that mate.

Thanks brother :) - this meat suit is a rental anyways.

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Post by ipaddr »

xprnio wrote: post #68
detourdog wrote: post #44

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Not to mention cocaine.

The cannabis to cocaine pipeline sadly is real, whether we want to or not. As long as the same people we buy our weed from also have a chance of being the people that have cocaine for you to buy, all that’s left to figure out is the money and the willingness to buy some. (Sadly speaking from experience)

That's not a common path to coke. Those who sell coke don't want to deal with a less profitable product that can be purchased legally.

In the movies the drug dealer has an overcoat with every common drug ready to sell at any point. In reality people stick to one or products because there not dealing with multiple suppliers and carrying products for months until the right buyer comes along, they buy in bulk and sell quickly.

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Post by tsoukase »

For such widespread factors any correlation not based on randomised controlled trials should be dismissed. There is so much confounding that you end up measuring smoking vs heart disease. I will not be surprised by the result, cannabis usage increases lung cancer risk.

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Post by laughing_man »

Thraway198 wrote: post #165
xprnio wrote: post #68

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The cannabis to cocaine pipeline sadly is real, whether we want to or not. As long as the same people we buy our weed from also have a chance of being the people that have cocaine for you to buy, all that’s left to figure out is the money and the willingness to buy some. (Sadly speaking from experience)

I have smoked cannabis for 20 years and I have never known anyone fall into the "cannabis-to-cocaine pipeline." Everyone I knew who developed coke problems had drinking problems first. Bar none.

So many guys I knew who were occasional weed smokers in high school started smoking cigarettes in college. That's the real "pipeline" effect of weed: cigarette smoking.

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Post by sbayg »

PaulHoule wrote: post #156
embedding-shape wrote: post #14

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Literally just wrote about that: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48794178 > I've smoked cannabis daily for maybe 15 years [...] Visited a cardiologist like two months ago and have perfectly fine heart despite the smoking.

I have been a heavy cannabis user (like that guy in the Bob Marley song who "smokes two joints in the morning, smokes two joints at night") on and off from my mid 20's onward. I've also been a heavy exerciser and have the constellation of symptoms known as "athlete's heart" including an A-Fib diagnosis that I don't really believe [1] as well as concerning findings that may or not really be concerning because doctors…

Ever had a CTA or other plaque study done? Athletes have plaque often, but so do stoners. Supposedly stoned plaque is stickier and thus more deadly.

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Post by Thraway198 »

nephihaha wrote: post #211
Thraway198 wrote: post #167

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I live in a legalized Marijauna country and there is no black market. The prices in the legal stores are actually lower than the former black market prices.

In the UK currently, an estimated third of cigarettes are illegal, because of the high duty on tobacco. What will probably happen here is that the British government will do the same if cannabis is legalised. They are already starting ensuring that only they and their friends can supply medical cannabis, meaning that we don't have a proper open market before it's even started.

Well idk, we had some kind of open market here in Canada and it just ended up with a few big players, a million bankruptcies and weed for under $10 CAD a gram.

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Post by Thraway198 »

laughing_man wrote: post #227
Thraway198 wrote: post #165

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I have smoked cannabis for 20 years and I have never known anyone fall into the "cannabis-to-cocaine pipeline." Everyone I knew who developed coke problems had drinking problems first. Bar none.

So many guys I knew who were occasional weed smokers in high school started smoking cigarettes in college. That's the real "pipeline" effect of weed: cigarette smoking.

Really? Im a millennial and dont know anyone who smoked who didnt start when they were like 13. Cigarettes = cancer.
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