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Cannabis users face substantially higher risk of heart attack (2025)

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Post by Thraway198 »

stego-tech wrote: post #129
embedding-shape wrote: post #5

> researchers were unable to account for several potential confounding factors including the duration and amount of cannabis use or the use of tobacco or other drugs. Personally I'd wager a bet it's the tobacco and/or smoking that is the harmful part, but it kind of dumbfounds me they failed to account for "details" like "duration and amount of cannabis use", that feels like a very vital thing to control for. Nothing…

I mean, probably? There's definitely a statistical likelihood of folks who use cannabis also using tobacco products or other substances. It's not a "gateway drug" so much as a "anyone who enjoys thing X is likely to try related things" object. I recall those early studies about alcohol in moderation being good for you eventually being debunked as, "actually, folks who could afford alcohol consistently in moderation a…

In my experience there is no overlap between cannabis and tobacco users. Cannabis users dont smoke because cigarettes cause cancer. There was never a link published around cannabis & cancer because no research even existed!

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Post by dempedempe »

iwontberude wrote: post #146
dempedempe wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah it raises heart rate and blood pressure bc it dilates your blood vessels. The raised HR/BP are to counter that so you keep pushing the same amount of O2 per unit time.

Dilation lowers blood pressure

It's more nuanced than that.

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Post by spopejoy »

beezle wrote: post #168
zug_zug wrote: post #138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What the literature definitely finds is that CBD ratio is crucial for anxiety (higher CBD = less anxiety). Some of the first lab experiments were pure THC and quite intense/unpleasant relative to what you'd get from a plant naturally "full spectrum." If you're ever in california, NY, Maryland, whatever then try something with 1:1 THC:CBD and maybe get some of the other CBs in there too. [Strain sativa/indica can sort…

CBD can definitely defuse an anxiety attack and it is a good idea to keep some available just in case.

CBD gave me anxiety as much as sativa. The only thing I actually enjoy is low-dose indica+hash/resin.

Point being, ymmv.

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Post by esikich »

swed420 wrote: post #99
honeycrispy wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you smoke?

If people are this concerned about heart health, they'd be wise to continue a zero-covid lifestyle into 2026 and beyond, since each re-infection (which vaccines don't prevent) increases the risk of severe health outcomes, including heart-related issues among lots of others. Yet I only see about .5-1% of the population in my area these days wearing any kind of mask/N95 respirator in public.

A - masks don't protect you, they protect others, B - what % of the population leaves the house when they feel sick enough that they should wear a mask?

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Post by spopejoy »

sandcat_ wrote: post #8

Not really related, but the other thing I found out recently that cannabis can cause is the worst panic attack I have ever experienced: a DPDR (derealization / depersonalization) panic attack. I’ve had regular panic attacks before. I get one a year, roughly, where I get essentially heart attack symptoms. But this was something else. It felt like something was truly, irrevocably broken with my mind and I couldn’t even…

I got one of those off of one hit of some absurd resin moonrock preroll. Not fun

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Post by dubeye »

laybak wrote: post #130

quite a few people I know consume edibles as the main form of cannabis. but it seems underrepresented in all the studies I've seen so far. as several others have pointed out, you would think the act of smoking would itself have nontrivial effects on health

i researched and experimented with edibles after beign diagnosed with CVD.

i don't beleive edibles are any safer

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Post by teekert »

FriendlyMike wrote: post #122
teekert wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is an opinion. I for one prefer talking to a happy, healthy mind, healthy body-type over someone with a life riddled with substance experiments. In fact, it was why I hardly talked to some of my family for a long time. Every weekend was the same, they were always angry and in the end they nearly killed themselves. I'm happy they got out of it and we have a much better relation now.

Weird as the only normal folks in my family are the pot smokers. Others along with neighbors seem to want to fight folks on a dime

Should have added that in this case it wasn't (just) pot.

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Post by yieldcrv »

slipperybeluga wrote: post #25
yieldcrv wrote: post #6

I’m annoyed by the bifurcated regulatory regime Substances approved by the FDA are done based on specific treatments, with multiple trials and approval per use case Substances declared scheduled are illegal by the substance itself, instead of per use case paradoxically because there is no FDA approved use case and almost no way to get one meaning that places in the US that diverge in legality and are ignored by the f…

The most ridiculous thing about cannabis remaining schedule 1 (high risk of abuse, no known medical use) so long is that there is both prescription THC and CBD. It should have been changed|to a higher (less strict) schedule decades ago with the release of marinol in 1985. Then we could have had a lot more studies being done. Needless to say, not easy to do studies on schedule 1 drugs.

the two week hearing happening now mentioned marinol, with the DEA throwing its support behind that and rescheduling to schedule III, following the administration's policy aims (only mentioning because the head of DEA was anti-rescheduling before being appointed, spineless haha but I'm glad he's not in the way)

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Post by johnisgood »

kataklasm wrote: post #80
kranner wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a fair assumption being a known potential cause of death. Of course I'm now assuming death is bad.

By that argumentation sport is bad and a potential death risk factor, it also elevates heart rate and blood pressure!

Yeah! I added that as an example and then edited it out.

Your parent's comment makes no sense.

Water can kill you, too! It does not mean that drinking water is bad.

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Post by 47282847 »

bottlepalm wrote: post #187
dvduval wrote: post #11

For me, cannabis causes anxiety, and it’s pretty well established that anybody with anxiety or bipolar or schizophrenia should not be using cannabis because it can make these much worse. I don’t suffer anxiety anymore, but there’s plenty of scientific evidence about the relationship between anxiety and cannabis use.

I’ve seen it happen over and over again, regular smokers stop smoking because weed only gives them anxiety now. It’s literally a gateway drug to an anxiety disorder.

I think it works for a while to cover up an anxiety disorder. Which is typically a result of adverse childhood experiences (like emotional neglect), until processed.
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