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Cannabis users face substantially higher risk of heart attack (2025)

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Is there something that can help a habitual cannabis user stop? GLP1s maybe?

You can cold-turkey it. Know daily smokers who (temporarily) quit for multiple reasons, e.g. medical reasons, job, extended travelling. From what I have seen, there are no side effects at all. They go back to smoking when the opportunity arises, but that's another story.

> From what I have seen, there are no side effects at all.

You haven’t seen enough.

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Would be nice to know how much of a role a sedentary lifestyle plays in it or if it puts everyone at risk regardless of other habits. Maybe this just means you need to do cardio several times a week to keep using THC.

FWIW, I've smoked cannabis daily for maybe 15 years, I'm not exactly sedentary (have dogs, a partner and like to (lazily) swim in the sea) but generally don't exercise. Visited a cardiologist like two months ago and have perfectly fine heart despite the smoking. Anecdotal of course, many could probably bring up counter-stories too, but I do think you bring up a good point, it seems to me a completely sedentary lifest…

What tests?

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I was under the impression that breathing in burnt particulate of any sort was associated with serious cardiovascular risk? I would think a significant portion of cannabis users ingest smoke very frequently or at least second hand smoke more frequently than people who do not engage at all with a subculture that is largely smoke oriented.

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You can cold-turkey it. Know daily smokers who (temporarily) quit for multiple reasons, e.g. medical reasons, job, extended travelling. From what I have seen, there are no side effects at all. They go back to smoking when the opportunity arises, but that's another story.

> From what I have seen, there are no side effects at all. You haven’t seen enough.

Yeah I know someone who is having real trouble stopping, he can cold-turkey for a few days but always starts up again. I think he has poor impulse control, which maybe GLP-1s could help, as some studies seem to indicate they help with cravings/impulsive behavior generally. I don't know if any MD would prescribe it for that, he's not obese so could not get it on that basis.

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Not to mention cocaine.

The cannabis to cocaine pipeline sadly is real, whether we want to or not. As long as the same people we buy our weed from also have a chance of being the people that have cocaine for you to buy, all that’s left to figure out is the money and the willingness to buy some. (Sadly speaking from experience)

I have smoked cannabis for 20 years and I have never known anyone fall into the "cannabis-to-cocaine pipeline."

Everyone I knew who developed coke problems had drinking problems first. Bar none.

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That's interesting and probably an argument for pro-legalization. Were I to pick a gateway drug into cocaine, it would be alcohol. It becomes a way to infuse more energy in a later night, which is usually one of alcoholic revelry. When cannabis is just in a store and it's the only thing there, many potheads just stay in the pothead bubble.

Exactly, alcohol IMHO affects judgment significantly worse than cannabis.

AND its a heavy party drug, which cannabis is notoriously not

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The cannabis to cocaine pipeline sadly is real, whether we want to or not. As long as the same people we buy our weed from also have a chance of being the people that have cocaine for you to buy, all that’s left to figure out is the money and the willingness to buy some. (Sadly speaking from experience)

I am aware of someone who does both, because I overheard someone discussing it with him. Cannabis will retain a black market when it becomes a government cash cow.

I live in a legalized Marijauna country and there is no black market. The prices in the legal stores are actually lower than the former black market prices.

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Any literature on this or is is just your gut?

What the literature definitely finds is that CBD ratio is crucial for anxiety (higher CBD = less anxiety). Some of the first lab experiments were pure THC and quite intense/unpleasant relative to what you'd get from a plant naturally "full spectrum." If you're ever in california, NY, Maryland, whatever then try something with 1:1 THC:CBD and maybe get some of the other CBs in there too. [Strain sativa/indica can sort…

CBD can definitely defuse an anxiety attack and it is a good idea to keep some available just in case.

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Literally just wrote about that: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48794178 > I've smoked cannabis daily for maybe 15 years [...] Visited a cardiologist like two months ago and have perfectly fine heart despite the smoking.

I have been a heavy cannabis user (like that guy in the Bob Marley song who "smokes two joints in the morning, smokes two joints at night") on and off from my mid 20's onward. I've also been a heavy exerciser and have the constellation of symptoms known as "athlete's heart" including an A-Fib diagnosis that I don't really believe [1] as well as concerning findings that may or not really be concerning because doctors…

That song was made popular by Sublime. Not written and never performed by Bob Marley. Great track though!

Re: Cannabis users face substantially higher risk of heart attack (2025)

#170

Is there something that can help a habitual cannabis user stop? GLP1s maybe?

What has worked for me is (1) Buy 4+ boxes of coconut water (2) remove cannabis from your house, (3) drink coconut water whenever you feel like smoking, (4) get some exercise going (swim, push-ups, gym, sports) - whatever the "MVP" of exercise is to start thinking of your body as fit, athletic & strong.
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