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Re: Phosh 0.56.0

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Post by karahime »

makeitdouble wrote: post #28
ryukafalz wrote: post #24

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I've never understood tap-to-pay being a dealbreaker issue. It takes me just as long to pull out my credit card as it does to pull out my phone, and you can use them on the exact same terminals. App support and camera quality I can understand more. I'm on a Linux phone using Phosh (FLX1s), and there's Android app compatibility, but it is a little rough (and of course things that rely on Play Integrity won't work). I'…

> It takes me just as long to pull out my credit card It can be a lifestyle difference. I personally don't being my wallet in most daily trips, have no use of it. I used to stick a credit card in my phone case but also got rid of it as more stores reliably offered wireless and QR code payments. Mind you this comes with a specific environment I don't expect everyone to live in or long for, I'm just explaining.

See, I have to have my driver's license, but if I could have that on my phone as well, I might do this. Running out of battery is largely not a concern for me as I already carry an external battery with multiple days of charge.

Re: Phosh 0.56.0

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Post by zipy124 »

treis wrote: post #30
zipy124 wrote: post #25

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The main issue is lack of banking app support for me. Without that (which the banks will never allow) you would always need two phones.

At the risk of sounding really old can't you use your computer/laptop for that?

Unfortunately not. A lot of UK banks require using your mobile phone as the 2nd factor to log on to online banking on your laptop. They used to issue fobs/card readers, but have moved to using the app for this now.

Re: Phosh 0.56.0

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Post by belowavgiq »

treis wrote: post #30
zipy124 wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The main issue is lack of banking app support for me. Without that (which the banks will never allow) you would always need two phones.

At the risk of sounding really old can't you use your computer/laptop for that?

Some new fintech banks only truly support smartphones.

Re: Phosh 0.56.0

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Post by belowavgiq »

gf000 wrote: post #23
tim-projects wrote: post #10

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Gnomes' a massive memory hog I was looking at this and thinking maybe it would improve a cheap android phone. But now I know it's running gnome I won't even consider trying

> maybe it would improve a cheap android phone. Not in a million worlds. Android is by far the most optimized OS (as a whole, including user space, graphics stack everything) for mobile devices. It's almost like the most widely used mobile operating system has had quite a bit of dev hours spent on it.

Trust me, you wouldn't be saying this if you had actually tried modern Android on low powered devices. low-mid range phones drop frames more often in 2026 than they did in 2015 with Android 5-7's much simpler UI.

edit: oops, the topic was RAM usage. in 2026. of course everyone, it's definitely the 200MB usage surplus that makes your phone feel heavy. let's add 1TB of RAM to a C2D and it will be ready to be paired with a 5090.

Re: Phosh 0.56.0

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Post by realusername »

gf000 wrote: post #19
zzril wrote: post #15

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SXMO is pretty minimal in that regard, but it doesn't force you to use the touchscreen. Can also navigate through menus via the volume buttons...

Even that will be a massive energy vampire compared to android, that had top notch engineers working on it for close to 2 decades...

Yes and no, SXMO will work without hardware acceleration, I've not tried but I doubt that Android will.

Additionally, minimum requirements of Android 17 are way above what SXMO allows.

With Phosh you would have a point but SXMO is lighter than a modern Android.

Re: Phosh 0.56.0

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Post by KoolKat23 »

chompychop wrote: post #26
ryukafalz wrote: post #24

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I've never understood tap-to-pay being a dealbreaker issue. It takes me just as long to pull out my credit card as it does to pull out my phone, and you can use them on the exact same terminals. App support and camera quality I can understand more. I'm on a Linux phone using Phosh (FLX1s), and there's Android app compatibility, but it is a little rough (and of course things that rely on Play Integrity won't work). I'…

With tap-to-pay, you can store multiple cards in your digital wallet, and you don't have to remember any of their PINs. You can use your fingerprint to sign transactions. I believe this makes it faster.

There's also thresholds where a simple tap of a card won't work and you need to insert the chip, not the case with the phone. Phone is much much easier, don't even have to open the wallet app, just unlock the phone with your fingerprint and tap.

Re: Phosh 0.56.0

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Post by treis »

zipy124 wrote: post #32
treis wrote: post #30

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At the risk of sounding really old can't you use your computer/laptop for that?

Unfortunately not. A lot of UK banks require using your mobile phone as the 2nd factor to log on to online banking on your laptop. They used to issue fobs/card readers, but have moved to using the app for this now.

Ah interesting. We're still on the email/sms 2FA

Re: Phosh 0.56.0

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Post by belowavgiq »

tim-projects wrote: post #17
gcr wrote: post #12

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Every desktop environment is a massive memory hog. Do you really want something minimal like xfce on a touchscreen?

I've been using openbox for over a decade. That's completely false. Xfce is not a memory hog. And it's not minimal either it's fully functional. Gnome is a bloated mess of a thing and I hate it. Why would anyone want their desktop to use over 1gb of ram. I have a 32gb laptop and I still loath the idea of throwing away memory on such a bloated awful thing. Running gnome on a phone. Yeah... No

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Re: Phosh 0.56.0

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Post by not_your_vase »

jarbus wrote: post #11

Linux has long been the most practical laptop OS for me, but I can't see it ever being competitive with mobile OSes, and that's coming from someone who wants it to succeed (I've installed postmarketOS on a OP6T). I just don't see how it will overcome the various issues (app support, tap-to-pay, camera quality, etc).

As long as every phone distro is just a desktop distro shoehorned on a small screen, that's not gonna happen.

IMO it's not a matter of tap to pay and camera quality, rather a matter of whole system paradigm. Having millions of disconnected services in the "do one thing and do it right" spirit and using text based communication and hundreds of python and shell scripts is relatively maintainable and relatively easy to use, but very inefficient when it comes to CPU cycles - and on a handheld every cycle counts.

And of course every app is optimized for desktops/laptops... but I guess that's a chicken-or-egg problem: once there is a working distro, there will be apps too. And once there will be apps to use, there will be a working distro. Maybe.

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