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Re: Phosh 0.56.0

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Post by ChocolateGod »

tim-projects wrote: post #17
gcr wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Every desktop environment is a massive memory hog. Do you really want something minimal like xfce on a touchscreen?

I've been using openbox for over a decade. That's completely false. Xfce is not a memory hog. And it's not minimal either it's fully functional. Gnome is a bloated mess of a thing and I hate it. Why would anyone want their desktop to use over 1gb of ram. I have a 32gb laptop and I still loath the idea of throwing away memory on such a bloated awful thing. Running gnome on a phone. Yeah... No

It doesn't run GNOME Shell, which is the main memory hog of GNOME.

It uses some GNOME services, namely so it doesn't have to invent it's own. None of these services are memory heavy and all have a purpose (e.g. managing Bluetooth)

Re: Phosh 0.56.0

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Post by Striving7340 »

tim-projects wrote: post #17
gcr wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Every desktop environment is a massive memory hog. Do you really want something minimal like xfce on a touchscreen?

I've been using openbox for over a decade. That's completely false. Xfce is not a memory hog. And it's not minimal either it's fully functional. Gnome is a bloated mess of a thing and I hate it. Why would anyone want their desktop to use over 1gb of ram. I have a 32gb laptop and I still loath the idea of throwing away memory on such a bloated awful thing. Running gnome on a phone. Yeah... No

Phosh is not based on gnome-shell and nobody cares if you want to run openbox on your phone.

Re: Phosh 0.56.0

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Post by gf000 »

tim-projects wrote: post #10
gf000 wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why? What's particularly heavy in these gnome tools? Like the particular programs are no issue, but the whole UNIX-userspace as done in the mainframe era and still is. Like you definitely need cooperative program suspend/resume like on Android for any kind of sane battery life, but that's unfortunately completely missing in case of GNU/Linux.

Gnomes' a massive memory hog I was looking at this and thinking maybe it would improve a cheap android phone. But now I know it's running gnome I won't even consider trying

> maybe it would improve a cheap android phone.

Not in a million worlds. Android is by far the most optimized OS (as a whole, including user space, graphics stack everything) for mobile devices. It's almost like the most widely used mobile operating system has had quite a bit of dev hours spent on it.

Re: Phosh 0.56.0

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Post by ryukafalz »

jarbus wrote: post #11

Linux has long been the most practical laptop OS for me, but I can't see it ever being competitive with mobile OSes, and that's coming from someone who wants it to succeed (I've installed postmarketOS on a OP6T). I just don't see how it will overcome the various issues (app support, tap-to-pay, camera quality, etc).

I've never understood tap-to-pay being a dealbreaker issue. It takes me just as long to pull out my credit card as it does to pull out my phone, and you can use them on the exact same terminals.

App support and camera quality I can understand more. I'm on a Linux phone using Phosh (FLX1s), and there's Android app compatibility, but it is a little rough (and of course things that rely on Play Integrity won't work). I've managed to avoid tying myself to anything that requires Google for now, but I acknowledge that I'm lucky there.

Re: Phosh 0.56.0

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Post by zipy124 »

jarbus wrote: post #11

Linux has long been the most practical laptop OS for me, but I can't see it ever being competitive with mobile OSes, and that's coming from someone who wants it to succeed (I've installed postmarketOS on a OP6T). I just don't see how it will overcome the various issues (app support, tap-to-pay, camera quality, etc).

The main issue is lack of banking app support for me. Without that (which the banks will never allow) you would always need two phones.

Re: Phosh 0.56.0

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Post by chompychop »

ryukafalz wrote: post #24
jarbus wrote: post #11

Linux has long been the most practical laptop OS for me, but I can't see it ever being competitive with mobile OSes, and that's coming from someone who wants it to succeed (I've installed postmarketOS on a OP6T). I just don't see how it will overcome the various issues (app support, tap-to-pay, camera quality, etc).

I've never understood tap-to-pay being a dealbreaker issue. It takes me just as long to pull out my credit card as it does to pull out my phone, and you can use them on the exact same terminals. App support and camera quality I can understand more. I'm on a Linux phone using Phosh (FLX1s), and there's Android app compatibility, but it is a little rough (and of course things that rely on Play Integrity won't work). I'…

With tap-to-pay, you can store multiple cards in your digital wallet, and you don't have to remember any of their PINs. You can use your fingerprint to sign transactions. I believe this makes it faster.

Re: Phosh 0.56.0

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Post by pocksuppet »

ryukafalz wrote: post #24
jarbus wrote: post #11

Linux has long been the most practical laptop OS for me, but I can't see it ever being competitive with mobile OSes, and that's coming from someone who wants it to succeed (I've installed postmarketOS on a OP6T). I just don't see how it will overcome the various issues (app support, tap-to-pay, camera quality, etc).

I've never understood tap-to-pay being a dealbreaker issue. It takes me just as long to pull out my credit card as it does to pull out my phone, and you can use them on the exact same terminals. App support and camera quality I can understand more. I'm on a Linux phone using Phosh (FLX1s), and there's Android app compatibility, but it is a little rough (and of course things that rely on Play Integrity won't work). I'…

I just put my debit card in the pocket in my phone case. Job done. If yours doesn't have a pocket, you can try putting it between the phone in the case. In that scenario, I suggest turning off NFC on the phone so it doesn't keep trying to read the card.

Re: Phosh 0.56.0

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Post by makeitdouble »

ryukafalz wrote: post #24
jarbus wrote: post #11

Linux has long been the most practical laptop OS for me, but I can't see it ever being competitive with mobile OSes, and that's coming from someone who wants it to succeed (I've installed postmarketOS on a OP6T). I just don't see how it will overcome the various issues (app support, tap-to-pay, camera quality, etc).

I've never understood tap-to-pay being a dealbreaker issue. It takes me just as long to pull out my credit card as it does to pull out my phone, and you can use them on the exact same terminals. App support and camera quality I can understand more. I'm on a Linux phone using Phosh (FLX1s), and there's Android app compatibility, but it is a little rough (and of course things that rely on Play Integrity won't work). I'…

> It takes me just as long to pull out my credit card

It can be a lifestyle difference.

I personally don't being my wallet in most daily trips, have no use of it. I used to stick a credit card in my phone case but also got rid of it as more stores reliably offered wireless and QR code payments.

Mind you this comes with a specific environment I don't expect everyone to live in or long for, I'm just explaining.

Re: Phosh 0.56.0

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Post by jansommer »

I've installed this on my Surface Go 2 64GB. Runs smooth! Absolutely the best tablet experience for Linux. The support is also wild: My silly questions are answered within hours.

Re: Phosh 0.56.0

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Post by treis »

zipy124 wrote: post #25
jarbus wrote: post #11

Linux has long been the most practical laptop OS for me, but I can't see it ever being competitive with mobile OSes, and that's coming from someone who wants it to succeed (I've installed postmarketOS on a OP6T). I just don't see how it will overcome the various issues (app support, tap-to-pay, camera quality, etc).

The main issue is lack of banking app support for me. Without that (which the banks will never allow) you would always need two phones.

At the risk of sounding really old can't you use your computer/laptop for that?
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