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Re: CarPlay Is Additive

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Post by jkmcf »

MBCook wrote: post #154
cavisne wrote: post #127

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For me it’s about the waste. Engineers have taken the time to build a screen into the car with a good viewing angle, that works well with glare, doesn’t obstruct the drivers view. Then the software side just makes the whole thing useless with a terrible UX that will never be updated. CarPlay is a great solution because the non safety critical stuff (music, navigation) gets offloaded to a competent software company.

Plus it improves every year. On my previous car it never changed from the day I bought it, other than navigation getting more and more out of date. On my current car I get software updates occasionally. I’m not sure that function ever changed though. Meanwhile my iPhone gets better every year. And if I buy a new phone? CarPlay can get faster. My car never will even if I wanted to pay them.

Not to mention that car dealerships seem to resist providing software updates. You have to beg them and even show them proof an update exists.

Re: CarPlay Is Additive

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Post by Induane »

garretraziel wrote: post #560
Induane wrote: post #237

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It's funny you mention Toyota, my Dad's 2022 Civic Hybrid is the one I get to witness being buggy garbage pretty much non-stop with CarPlay. Lord don't plug it into the USB port that does data if you're already on wireless Carplay. You might be done until you pull over. I also love the way using speech to reply to a text often resumes the wrong song (seemingly just starts a random song midway through, and multiple ti…

Just a small note: Civic is Honda, not Toyota.

Haha yea - my dad always had a Prius prior to his civic hybrid. Easily mixed up! Well at least for my dumbass.

Re: CarPlay Is Additive

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Post by Induane »

neogodless wrote: post #516
Induane wrote: post #192

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Are there vehicles that support it in a way that isn't buggy? I have a few friends with it and I don't think I've been on a single ride with them without a glitch. Freezing interface, spontaneously jumping to regular Bluetooth, music playing but no actual volume, plugging into usb power causing some kind of mode-shift that makes the screen hang or briefly cease to work, all kinds of nonsense. Also kind of weirdly bad…

Which cars specifically? I haven't seen a broad range, but Mazda seems very fast and reliable. Chevrolet (prior to recent models that drop it) and Honda do it well.

It is pretty terrible on my Bolt but it's a 2019 so maybe it's just an age thing.

Re: CarPlay Is Additive

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Post by IgorPartola »

shawabawa3 wrote: post #231
ipdashc wrote: post #223

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> I am clearly in the minority here but I have driven cars with and without CarPlay and honestly do not care whether a car has it. I'm in the same boat, though with Android Auto or whatever. I'm honestly surprised how many people seem to need CarPlay; a comment or two down there's a stat claiming 79% of buyers wouldn't buy a car without it. Is it that different from the Android implementation? Is there something spec…

I'm one of the people that wouldn't buy a card without android auto and carplay support Car UIs are just universally awful. Even if somehow you find one with a decent UI, it will never get updated and within 5 years it will suck

No within 5 years it would be exactly the same :)

Re: CarPlay Is Additive

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Post by IgorPartola »

geocar wrote: post #282
IgorPartola wrote: post #217

I am clearly in the minority here but I have driven cars with and without CarPlay and honestly do not care whether a car has it. I use my phone for navigation and mount it such that when I look at it I am not taking my eyes off the road. I find this to be far better than having to look down at the center of my dashboard but CarPlay navigation UI via Google Maps or Waze also works fine so it’s not a huge difference. R…

Having my phone mounted is fine but it’s been hard for me to find a good mount that works with random rental car I get. Any suggestions? I don’t hate carplay but some things annoy me like I can’t Shazam what I’m listening to in the car because CarPlay pauses the cars audio. I would be willing to try to make it optional until CarPlay works better.

I ride motorcycles so I use Quad Lock. It’s an expensive ecosystem and you must use their specific case but it works incredibly well and has every kind of mount and various extenders that let you modify it to be just right.

Re: CarPlay Is Additive

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Post by kelvinjps10 »

For me the car infotainment system is okay, except for one thing and it's Google maps having the navigation on the car's screen itself it's way more convenient than on the phone or the bad gps the car has from factory

Re: CarPlay Is Additive

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Post by NetMageSCW »

_factor wrote: post #247
dcrazy wrote: post #187

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TPMS has been mandatory in the U.S. since 2007. It turns out riding on under-inflated tires is dangerous, and people don’t regularly check their tire pressure. My car will not exceed a certain speed if TPMS is malfunctioning.

Conveniently it cost around $200 every 5-7 years to replace all 4.

Driven cars much longer than that without replacing TPMS.

Re: CarPlay Is Additive

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Post by NetMageSCW »

Telaneo wrote: post #572
izacus wrote: post #566

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> The maps? Why would I bother when I can use Carplay instead? Because, I quote: "they bother you". Which would explain why should you bother, right? (Also, I was specifically talking about having Android Auto/Carplay projected in gauge cluster.)

Carplay's a better fix for the map issue, since then I don't have to update them whenever I find an error. With Carplay, errors instead don't happen. The directions being shown in the gauge cluster via carplay is still not a thing on later Kias from what I can tell, so that problem is unfixed no matter what.

LOL that errors don’t happen on Apple or Google Maps. I submit updates to fix things every few months.

Re: CarPlay Is Additive

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Post by NetMageSCW »

thefourthchime wrote: post #631
DannyBee wrote: post #503

I used to refuse to buy cars without carplay. For many of the reasons I expect others do. I have a rivian, and my wife has a car with carplay. I've had rivians for years now. I don't miss carplay when i drive my Rivian. In truth, I used carplay for 3 main things - navigation that didn't suck, listening to music on the apps i wanted to, and reading text messages out loud. Rivian has made those things not suck. So i do…

I own a Tesla not a Rivian, but I agree with you here. As a software engineer, I find CarPlay to be a tack-on solution. For that, it works well, but only because the base infotainment systems on almost every OEM are utter trash. Something that I don't believe is discussed enough, especially here, is how bad 90% of software is in general. Software from non-software companies, almost without exception, is just junk. It…

If they had it, you wouldn’t be required to use it.
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