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The bottleneck might be the air in the room

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Re: The bottleneck might be the air in the room

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A lot of CO2 is bad for thinking. CO2 is just a tip as office or home is toxic environment anyway. Plastic (e.g. carpets), formaldehyde in furniture, air fresheners… add home office and cooking at home (-> small carcinogenic particles)… If you start reading How not to die by Michael Greger, you find out that dust, soda and sitting - not CO2 - are real killers… It's similar to how people think sharks and airplanes are…

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Re: The bottleneck might be the air in the room

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Submarines operate in the 1000s of PPM CO2 range and the sailors aboard generally do not experience any ill effects. This was tested and no deficits were found even at 15,000 PPM: https://asma.kglmeridian.com/view/journals/amhp/89/6/article...

If that study was of submariners, is it possible long-term high-level exposure causes the body to adapt?

I am suspicious of 0.1% having a significant effect though, given oxygen is around 20% and we naturally exhale a couple of percent CO2.

Re: The bottleneck might be the air in the room

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A lot of CO2 is bad for thinking. CO2 is just a tip as office or home is toxic environment anyway. Plastic (e.g. carpets), formaldehyde in furniture, air fresheners… add home office and cooking at home (-> small carcinogenic particles)… If you start reading How not to die by Michael Greger, you find out that dust, soda and sitting - not CO2 - are real killers… It's similar to how people think sharks and airplanes are…

How do you avoid/reduce exposure to dust? Genuine question

Use an air purifier, wear a respirator outside if you live in a polluted place.

Re: The bottleneck might be the air in the room

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A lot of CO2 is bad for thinking. CO2 is just a tip as office or home is toxic environment anyway. Plastic (e.g. carpets), formaldehyde in furniture, air fresheners… add home office and cooking at home (-> small carcinogenic particles)… If you start reading How not to die by Michael Greger, you find out that dust, soda and sitting - not CO2 - are real killers… It's similar to how people think sharks and airplanes are…

How do you avoid/reduce exposure to dust? Genuine question

Air filters, decluttering, regular deep cleaning, replacing dust-friendly surfaces and furniture (such as carpet, drapes, and upholstered sofas) with things like wood, vinyl, or leather. HVAC maintenance, cleaning, and filters. Washable allergen covers for things like pillows and mattresses.

Re: The bottleneck might be the air in the room

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Oh this is absolutely so relevant and I wonder if there are any high quality studies that have analyzed driving performance against CO2 buildup in cars. Cars often ship with circulate air feature in the aircon, and people use it aggressively, nonchalantly at least where I live, having no idea about the dangers of possible hypoxia and sleepiness that might be inducing in them while driving. It is absolutely critical in my opinion for cars to have CO2 monitors. We put so many sensors in cars these days that this seems to be a really cheap and fairly high value of life addition that could possibly prevent accidents on roads. I keep a portable CO2 sensor in my car at all times, because sometimes circulation is not something I can avoid when stuck in traffic or when passing by a drain.

Re: The bottleneck might be the air in the room

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Submarines operate in the 1000s of PPM CO2 range and the sailors aboard generally do not experience any ill effects. This was tested and no deficits were found even at 15,000 PPM: https://asma.kglmeridian.com/view/journals/amhp/89/6/article...

One key difference is that submariners are rigorously trained to operate effectively in less-than-ideal environmental conditions, whereas Bob from accounting probably is not.

Re: The bottleneck might be the air in the room

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A lot of CO2 is bad for thinking. CO2 is just a tip as office or home is toxic environment anyway. Plastic (e.g. carpets), formaldehyde in furniture, air fresheners… add home office and cooking at home (-> small carcinogenic particles)… If you start reading How not to die by Michael Greger, you find out that dust, soda and sitting - not CO2 - are real killers… It's similar to how people think sharks and airplanes are…

How do you avoid/reduce exposure to dust? Genuine question

HEPA-filter air purifier and a robot vacuum that is scheduled to run while your are not in the apartment (to reduce baseline dust) are probably the most simple/cost-effective measures.

Re: The bottleneck might be the air in the room

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I’m not saying this isn’t a legitimate concern but this really seems to have exploded amongst the tech community as the next obsession. I see this pop up on X every few weeks. Is the concern about this really based on actual science? Is there empirical data proving people are less productive or are damaging themselves as a result of heightened CO2 levels? And I don’t mean observational epidemiology studies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Nh_vxpycEA
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