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The bottleneck might be the air in the room

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Re: The bottleneck might be the air in the room

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I’m not saying this isn’t a legitimate concern but this really seems to have exploded amongst the tech community as the next obsession.

I see this pop up on X every few weeks. Is the concern about this really based on actual science? Is there empirical data proving people are less productive or are damaging themselves as a result of heightened CO2 levels? And I don’t mean observational epidemiology studies.

Re: The bottleneck might be the air in the room

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Yet another reason to have meetings while walking outside: air quality and a natural limit on time, and the mental benefits that come from movement.

requires that everyone is comfortable walking and has no physical impairments.

Not to talk about the weather either.

Re: The bottleneck might be the air in the room

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A lot of CO2 is bad for thinking.

CO2 is just a tip as office or home is toxic environment anyway. Plastic (e.g. carpets), formaldehyde in furniture, air fresheners… add home office and cooking at home (-> small carcinogenic particles)…

If you start reading How not to die by Michael Greger, you find out that dust, soda and sitting - not CO2 - are real killers…

It's similar to how people think sharks and airplanes are the biggest killers - when in reality it is coconuts, mosquitoes, and motorcycles.

Re: The bottleneck might be the air in the room

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Submarines operate in the 1000s of PPM CO2 range and the sailors aboard generally do not experience any ill effects. This was tested and no deficits were found even at 15,000 PPM: https://asma.kglmeridian.com/view/journals/amhp/89/6/article...

Though that study included a 45 minute acclimation period. Appropriate for submarines, but I wonder what the results would be in the first 1 / 5 / 10 minutes.

Re: The bottleneck might be the air in the room

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> Then, somewhere in the second hour, the room quietly gets worse at making them.

Maybe it's not just the air but also the multi-hour meetings that drive people to a sense of "oh god let this finally end now", which leads do decisions that fall short.

Re: The bottleneck might be the air in the room

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post #6

I really wish a Apple or another major OEM would integrate CO2 monitor into watches or smartphones. Suddenly, everybody would be aware of the CO2 level in the room, get alerts, etc. and the problem will just solve itself. There are so many rooms, classrooms, movie theaters and other places with poor ventilation where you just feel dizzy, or fall asleep, not knowing it was just due to lower oxygen levels in your blood…

Apple watches already have a blood-oxygen sensor so it's covered, albeit indirectly.

Re: The bottleneck might be the air in the room

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Don't forget too, if the CO2 is 1000 ppm, then half of the air in each breath you inhale was recently exhaled by someone else. Yes, airborne viruses are still spreading. I still wear an N95 mask whenever I'm in an indoor space with other people outside of home. IKEA now has a remarkably cheap ($35) air quality monitor that measures CO2 as well as PM: https://www.ikea.com/us/en/p/alpstuga-air-quality-sensor-sma... I d…

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Re: The bottleneck might be the air in the room

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post #15

A lot of CO2 is bad for thinking. CO2 is just a tip as office or home is toxic environment anyway. Plastic (e.g. carpets), formaldehyde in furniture, air fresheners… add home office and cooking at home (-> small carcinogenic particles)… If you start reading How not to die by Michael Greger, you find out that dust, soda and sitting - not CO2 - are real killers… It's similar to how people think sharks and airplanes are…

How do you avoid/reduce exposure to dust? Genuine question
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