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Re: CarPlay Is Additive

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Post by Tagbert »

hsbauauvhabzb wrote: post #119
faitswulff wrote: post #104

Surprised no one's mentioned it so far, but CarPlay / Android Auto aren't just features, they're consistency . Across makes, models, years. I know what I'm getting when I connect my phone - and if anyone uses my car with their own device, they get their own dashboard, as well. One interesting use case I saw was a couple where one used a left-to-right interface and the other a right-to-left UI. CarPlay makes this easy…

I would prefer knobs and buttons over a screen flow in either direction, but no modern car caters to this anymore.

The things that CarPlay does are not the things that are controlled with buttons. Navigation, music, audiobooks, notifications work best with a screen. The driving and vehicle features like heat, blinkers, etc are where you want dedicated physical buttons.

Re: CarPlay Is Additive

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Post by Tagbert »

mschuster91 wrote: post #307
namdnay wrote: post #251

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> having to look down at the center of my dashboard that's why more recent models move the screen higher up. it sometimes looks a bit silly (like they glued an ipad on top of the dashboard), but it's a lot more usable > HUD that projected my location, speed, heading and turn by turn navigation (with lane info!) onto the windshield the latest carplay implementations are compatible with the inbuilt navigation aids, so…

> it sometimes looks a bit silly (like they glued an ipad on top of the dashboard), but it's a lot more usable ... until there's some child walking right into that visual "dead space".

You really should keep that child strapped into their car seat.

If you are concerned about blocking visibility, none of the screens are high enough to block view of the area in front of the car. They only block the upper part of the dashboard or some of the hood.

Re: CarPlay Is Additive

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Post by 0x457 »

drewg123 wrote: post #664
0x457 wrote: post #656

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I haven't tried this on iPhone yet, but on android you can share Wi-Fi connection. Many times I've connected phone to hotel Wi-Fi and then chromecast to my phone.

Sadly, we're both on iPhone and you cannot share Wi-Fi like that on iPhone :( This was a bummer just the other day where my iPhone somehow (and I still don't know how) auto-signed into an amazingly fast wifi AP managed by my cell provider, but I was stuck working on crappy guest wifi on my laptop and could not get the laptop onto the better wifi.

I guess I will add to the list of feature I miss from android.

Re: CarPlay Is Additive

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Post by DangitBobby »

The article's best point is about customer choice. If Rivian were really making its decision to deliver the best experience, they'd confidently ship something that supports CarPlay and let the customer choose the better option. Obviously when the customer sees Rivian's superior vision, they'll make the right choice.

To me, any company that doesn't act this way gives away the game. It's about lock-in, control, subscriptions, selling tracking data. Definitely why GM is doing it, anyway.

Re: CarPlay Is Additive

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Post by DangitBobby »

jrmg wrote: post #478
symfoniq wrote: post #9

I agree with the author: CarPlay is table stakes for me. Whenever an automaker says a car won't support CarPlay, I mentally cross it off my list. Which is fine, because there are plenty of other viable options.

We bought a Honda Prologue last year and didn’t even test drive the built-on-the-same-platform GM cars (e.g. the almost-identical Chevy Blazer EV) because they didn’t have CarPlay. People like us have got to be affecting GM’s sales by some measurable amount, right?

They'll just say it's because people don't want EVs

Re: CarPlay Is Additive

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spaqin wrote: post #65

As someone who only had 20+ year old cars and motorcycles, I don't see what's CarPlay supposed to solve? All I need is a Bluetooth-capable radio and a phone holder to display the navigation, so I can listen to my music and focus on driving. Phone doesn't need to be touched unless changing destinations. Do people seriously need to be constantly entertained while driving?

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Re: CarPlay Is Additive

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Post by murderfs »

orthogonal_cube wrote: post #145
bitmasher9 wrote: post #130

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The car companies need to stay in their lanes on this one. You’re risking selling a >$40k piece of hardware that requires professional service every six months in order to sell me $240/yr in software subscriptions.

$240/yr in software subscriptions but likely far more than that by selling the extra metadata they can extract from the service

I don't understand why people are so deluded about the value of metadata about them. It's not that valuable, you're not that important.

Re: CarPlay Is Additive

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Post by not_the_fda »

Zak wrote: post #636
valgaze wrote: post #4

Author says "I literally will not buy a car that does not support CarPlay." From July 2022: https://www.cnbc.com/2022/07/22/apple-carplay-could-be-a-tro ... Apple engineering manager Emily Schubert said 98% of new cars in the U.S. come with CarPlay installed. She delivered a shocking stat: 79% of U.S. buyers would only buy a car if it supported CarPlay. “It’s a must-have feature when shopping for a new vehicle,” Schu…

> She delivered a shocking stat: 79% of U.S. buyers would only buy a car if it supported CarPlay. I would be shocked by the number being that high because while iOS has a slim majority of the market share, it's nowhere near 79%.

It might be new cars. I could see new car buyers having an iphone bias vs android.

Re: CarPlay Is Additive

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Post by alex0015 »

qmarchi wrote: post #181
alex0015 wrote: post #176

It's a strange feeling reading these comments because not only have I never used carplay or android auto, I don't think I've ever noticed anyone else using it in a car someone's driven me in. Everyone I know just has their phone in a dash mount. I don't think it's that small a sample size either! I drive a 2014 Accord and it auto connects to my android with Bluetooth when I turn on the car. It's hard to really imagin…

CarPlay and Android Auto only really started seeing adoption in post 2017 Model Year vehicles. Anyone I know that has one, will immediately either plugin or connect whenever they go live. There's other benefits like (in the aforementioned article), CarPlay Ultra being able to send data to multiple screens like the front dash. Where having my directions right next to me speed means I don't have to check two screens.

Oh, that's really cool. For about two years the car I drove and the phone I had lined up such that I could kind of wedge it in the front dash next to the speedometer, and that was for sure a better location than the dash mount I have now. I'd forgotten about that.
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