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International chess federation sanctions Kramnik

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Re: International chess federation sanctions Kramnik

#51

Kramnik is an asshole and this action is far too little far too late. His actions have possibly already led to the loss of a life. At the same time, FIDE also needs to look back at the behavior of some of the most powerful people in the sport in the whole Hans saga. What Hans was put through was ridiculous even if all the allegations were true, given how many actions were simply the result of the most powerful player…

Hans admitted to cheating. It's no wonder his career suffered. Incidentally, he is also a complete asshole.

Re: International chess federation sanctions Kramnik

#52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

By using computers.

Aren't tournaments either held in person or with at least some judge/referree witnessing both parties?

That didn't prevent Anna Rudolf being accused that she hid a supercomputer in her lip balm box made of tin sheet metal in 2007 and cheated with it in the bathroom.

Some parts of the chess community are very ridiculous.

Re: International chess federation sanctions Kramnik

#53

Kramnik is an asshole and this action is far too little far too late. His actions have possibly already led to the loss of a life. At the same time, FIDE also needs to look back at the behavior of some of the most powerful people in the sport in the whole Hans saga. What Hans was put through was ridiculous even if all the allegations were true, given how many actions were simply the result of the most powerful player…

For those of us who have no idea who this guy is and what he said, what did he do? Did he say something unapproved?

Do you mean Kramnik or Hans Niemann?

Kramnik ((ab)using his status as a former world champion) accused several other top level players to the point that one of them committed suicide.

Niemann allegedly cheated (In my personal opinion as a decently rated but certainly not elite chess player, he probably did cheat in this particular game, though proof was never given and probably never will) at a high level chess tournament and was ostracized by the chess community for a while. He has since rejoined and continues to play at a high level.

Re: International chess federation sanctions Kramnik

#54

Kramnik is an asshole and this action is far too little far too late. His actions have possibly already led to the loss of a life. At the same time, FIDE also needs to look back at the behavior of some of the most powerful people in the sport in the whole Hans saga. What Hans was put through was ridiculous even if all the allegations were true, given how many actions were simply the result of the most powerful player…

Hans admitted to cheating. It's no wonder his career suffered. Incidentally, he is also a complete asshole.

Sindorov, who won the candidates, and will be playing for the world championship, has also had accounts banned on chess.com for (presumably) cheating as a teenager. Do you think it would be ok if a large part of the chess world conspired to keep him out of tournaments. Do you think it would be ok if the world made jokes that he cheated using a sex toy? Do you think it would be ok for the largest youtube chess channel (GothamChess) to publish a video titled "Chess cheating device" featuring a thumbnail showing his face next to a butt plug? And all this while he was 19?

What happened to Hans is FAR worse than anything Kramnik did. But maybe you think it's ok because you find him to be an asshole?

Re: International chess federation sanctions Kramnik

#55
post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For those of us who have no idea who this guy is and what he said, what did he do? Did he say something unapproved?

Do you mean Kramnik or Hans Niemann? Kramnik ((ab)using his status as a former world champion) accused several other top level players to the point that one of them committed suicide. Niemann allegedly cheated (In my personal opinion as a decently rated but certainly not elite chess player, he probably did cheat in this particular game, though proof was never given and probably never will) at a high level chess tourn…

> Kramnik ((ab)using his status as a former world champion) accused several other top level players to the point that one of them committed suicide.

There is no evidence of suicide, and he had multiple drugs in his system when he died.

> he probably did cheat in this particular game

This is a fringe opinion at this point in time, even though it was obvious he did not cheat on day 1.

Re: International chess federation sanctions Kramnik

#56
post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you mean Kramnik or Hans Niemann? Kramnik ((ab)using his status as a former world champion) accused several other top level players to the point that one of them committed suicide. Niemann allegedly cheated (In my personal opinion as a decently rated but certainly not elite chess player, he probably did cheat in this particular game, though proof was never given and probably never will) at a high level chess tourn…

> Kramnik ((ab)using his status as a former world champion) accused several other top level players to the point that one of them committed suicide. There is no evidence of suicide, and he had multiple drugs in his system when he died. > he probably did cheat in this particular game This is a fringe opinion at this point in time, even though it was obvious he did not cheat on day 1.

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Re: International chess federation sanctions Kramnik

#57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hans admitted to cheating. It's no wonder his career suffered. Incidentally, he is also a complete asshole.

Sindorov, who won the candidates, and will be playing for the world championship, has also had accounts banned on chess.com for (presumably) cheating as a teenager. Do you think it would be ok if a large part of the chess world conspired to keep him out of tournaments. Do you think it would be ok if the world made jokes that he cheated using a sex toy? Do you think it would be ok for the largest youtube chess channel…

Maybe they are both assholes

Re: International chess federation sanctions Kramnik

#58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hans admitted to cheating. It's no wonder his career suffered. Incidentally, he is also a complete asshole.

Sindorov, who won the candidates, and will be playing for the world championship, has also had accounts banned on chess.com for (presumably) cheating as a teenager. Do you think it would be ok if a large part of the chess world conspired to keep him out of tournaments. Do you think it would be ok if the world made jokes that he cheated using a sex toy? Do you think it would be ok for the largest youtube chess channel…

Daniel Naroditsky is dead

Re: International chess federation sanctions Kramnik

#59
post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you mean Kramnik or Hans Niemann? Kramnik ((ab)using his status as a former world champion) accused several other top level players to the point that one of them committed suicide. Niemann allegedly cheated (In my personal opinion as a decently rated but certainly not elite chess player, he probably did cheat in this particular game, though proof was never given and probably never will) at a high level chess tourn…

> Kramnik ((ab)using his status as a former world champion) accused several other top level players to the point that one of them committed suicide. There is no evidence of suicide, and he had multiple drugs in his system when he died. > he probably did cheat in this particular game This is a fringe opinion at this point in time, even though it was obvious he did not cheat on day 1.

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Re: International chess federation sanctions Kramnik

#60
post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For those of us who have no idea who this guy is and what he said, what did he do? Did he say something unapproved?

Do you mean Kramnik or Hans Niemann? Kramnik ((ab)using his status as a former world champion) accused several other top level players to the point that one of them committed suicide. Niemann allegedly cheated (In my personal opinion as a decently rated but certainly not elite chess player, he probably did cheat in this particular game, though proof was never given and probably never will) at a high level chess tourn…

Interesting. Maybe I am not getting something: it sounds like his cheating accusations cover some kind of an online chess tournament. Why does this even matter? Why would people care that much? Shouldn't they be focused on face-to-face world championships, etc...?
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