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International chess federation sanctions Kramnik

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Re: International chess federation sanctions Kramnik

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Post by g42gregory »

adjejmxbdjdn wrote: post #17

Kramnik is an asshole and this action is far too little far too late. His actions have possibly already led to the loss of a life. At the same time, FIDE also needs to look back at the behavior of some of the most powerful people in the sport in the whole Hans saga. What Hans was put through was ridiculous even if all the allegations were true, given how many actions were simply the result of the most powerful player…

For those of us who have no idea who this guy is and what he said, what did he do? Did he say something unapproved?

Re: International chess federation sanctions Kramnik

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Post by [deleted] »

g42gregory wrote: post #41
adjejmxbdjdn wrote: post #17

Kramnik is an asshole and this action is far too little far too late. His actions have possibly already led to the loss of a life. At the same time, FIDE also needs to look back at the behavior of some of the most powerful people in the sport in the whole Hans saga. What Hans was put through was ridiculous even if all the allegations were true, given how many actions were simply the result of the most powerful player…

For those of us who have no idea who this guy is and what he said, what did he do? Did he say something unapproved?

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Re: International chess federation sanctions Kramnik

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Post by ajkjk »

JoshTriplett wrote: post #20
amrit3128 wrote: post #11

For anyone new, Kramnik has been accusing players left and right of cheating without any proof. His accusations have done huge harm to the chess community as a whole. Daniel Naroditsky was harrassed so much, that he eventually went into depression and committed suicide. And he had proven ability as one of the best chess players out there, and probably the best chess teacher on YouTube. These are facts. Now onto my pr…

> Daniel Naroditsky was harrassed so much, that he eventually went into depression and committed suicide. Not according to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Naroditsky ? (Still a tragedy, though; any death is.)

If you want to be detailed about it, https://www.reddit.com/r/chess/comments/1qjafcd/medical_exam... talks about the whole report; that sarcoidosis was the actual cause is speculative, and the "substance use as a contributing factor" part is widely believed to be in part due to the extreme stress he was under... but it is hard to say anything about causality definitively.

Re: International chess federation sanctions Kramnik

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Post by wilbur_whateley »

dwa3592 wrote: post #29

For non-chess players - imagine if Geoffrey hinton used AI detectors (GPT zero, pangram etc) to accuse and punish people of using AI in their writing and bad mouth them publicly. That's what kramnik (former world chess champion) did to Danya and other players. I miss Danya.

How did he punish them?

Re: International chess federation sanctions Kramnik

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Post by [deleted] »

adjejmxbdjdn wrote: post #17

Kramnik is an asshole and this action is far too little far too late. His actions have possibly already led to the loss of a life. At the same time, FIDE also needs to look back at the behavior of some of the most powerful people in the sport in the whole Hans saga. What Hans was put through was ridiculous even if all the allegations were true, given how many actions were simply the result of the most powerful player…

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Re: International chess federation sanctions Kramnik

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Post by Arainach »

prmoustache wrote: post #45
Arainach wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

By using computers.

Aren't tournaments either held in person or with at least some judge/referree witnessing both parties?

Many games are held online. In person, computers get smaller all the time (and there are bathroom breaks etc.). The history of trying to cheat at chess, casino games, and more with concealed computers is far too large a topic for one reply.
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