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Re: CarPlay Is Additive

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But still no pause button, only mute! Just maddening, do they think I only listen to radio?

In my Hyundai pressing the mute button while on Bluetooth/Android Auto pauses playback and mutes. Pressing again resumes playback and volume to previous level.

That's a great solution, I wish mine did that.

Re: CarPlay Is Additive

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Are there vehicles that support it in a way that isn't buggy? I have a few friends with it and I don't think I've been on a single ride with them without a glitch. Freezing interface, spontaneously jumping to regular Bluetooth, music playing but no actual volume, plugging into usb power causing some kind of mode-shift that makes the screen hang or briefly cease to work, all kinds of nonsense. Also kind of weirdly bad…

I own a Ford and a BMW, both with CarPlay. The BMW is flawless. The Ford just refuses to connect about 10% of the time and requires the infotainment system to be rebooted. It also occasionally connects but leaves audio coming out of the phone speaker. So yes, implementations vary.

I have a Ford that after 13 years is reaching the point where I'm considering replacing it.

Their homemade infotainment system prior to CarPlay was awful, and has an overflow error which hits me about once every 6 months which requires pulling the fuse to hard reset it. As far as I can tell they keep adding new songs to a stack, and never flush it so at some point you'll reach the end of a song and it won't play any more. Once you reached that you can only use the phone function, attempts to use music result in you getting your Bluetooth connection terminated.

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I am clearly in the minority here but I have driven cars with and without CarPlay and honestly do not care whether a car has it. I use my phone for navigation and mount it such that when I look at it I am not taking my eyes off the road. I find this to be far better than having to look down at the center of my dashboard but CarPlay navigation UI via Google Maps or Waze also works fine so it’s not a huge difference. R…

How do you mount your phone in a rental car? Do you bring your own phone holder with you?

You pay 50 USD extra for the holder, duh!

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Am I the only person who hates plugging their iPhone into their car to charge and completely losing control of it?

When I plug it into the USB socket, my Peugeot 207 starts playing a random podcast track on my phone. No way of stopping it. If I stop it, it starts again. I can't select a different audio output, e.g. the phone speaker. There are plenty of people complaining about this on the forums.

Yes, it's a bug in either the iPhone or the car. Yes the bug shouldn't be there, but it is. I should be able to disable it.

I'm in the habit of bringing a spare battery with me so I can use phone sat-nav.

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As an R1S owner I feel like the elephant in the room is that the Rivian developed infotainment software is just not very good. For example, the Spotify app has weird scrolling issues and the interface for offline downloads is clunky and unreliable. The maps/route planning is fine but not really any better than Apple/Google Maps (or ABRP). So I find it hard to give much credit to their argument against CarPlay when th…

In the end they treat a podcast like this as PR. "We're great". Elaborate rationalizations of their decisions.

Re: CarPlay Is Additive

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It‘s so annoying. Please, folks: Write your own words with your own quirks! Yes, you aren't a native speaker. Yes, it will read weird. But I prefer weirdness over AI. There is so much noise in text that is written by AI, it hurts my brain.

There are plenty of people who actually do write like that. That’s one reason why LLMs often write like that.

I like to disagree here. Despite the downvotes, not many people write or talk like that. It is not that common, at least in english. Contrastive framing is a pretty low-effort, high-attention signal, which makes sense in e.g. summaries, titles or ads. AI uses this as training data, and once you have this data, reinforcment learning will only deepen the usage, e.g. it will appear more often. Because it "sounds" familiar.

I'm sorry, but I do not buy the "people talk like that" argument. It's anecdotal evidence for me, sure, but I'm waiting for facts.

Re: CarPlay Is Additive

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> having to look down at the center of my dashboard that's why more recent models move the screen higher up. it sometimes looks a bit silly (like they glued an ipad on top of the dashboard), but it's a lot more usable > HUD that projected my location, speed, heading and turn by turn navigation (with lane info!) onto the windshield the latest carplay implementations are compatible with the inbuilt navigation aids, so…

I wish everyone would just have an option to see the navigation the the gauge cluster.

Weirdly enough, some cars don't even have that cluster any more. Like the Volvo EX30.

Re: CarPlay Is Additive

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Car manufacturers don't want this because it gives Apple/Google leverage over their products. The alternative is some kind of open standard, but that undercuts the ability of manufacturers to hard fuck you on trim options.

One of the more irritating parts of late stage capitalism is the complete inability of its scions (CEOs, etc.) to say any of this. The gaslighting is insufferable.

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You can buy a tire gauge at a gas station for $10 and check your tires when you clean your car. But then again, I am old enough perhaps to have been taught to regularly check your tires before driving to begin with.

Did I just read an argument that it’s easier or safer to manually check your tire pressures rather than having the car do it automatically every time the car drives fast enough to “wake up” the TPMS units?

It's easier to do that than to pay to replace them when the battery dies. Just stop adding more unnecessary costs to my car maintenance!

Re: CarPlay Is Additive

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For pure interaction, CarPlay as a generic solution is very hard to beat infotainment systems that are deeply integrated with the vehicle itself. Its advantages are mainly these: - Consistency. You get into a new car, all you need to figure out is how to open CarPlay, no need to learning a completely different and often complicated infotainment system. - "It's on your phone". You can decide what playlist to play or w…

You missed the biggest one: continuity. Start listening to music at home, take it to the car. Start a podcast in the car, finish it in the gym.

CarPlay is user-centric, which is why users like it. All these attempts to force people into a device-centric experience make no sense. I spent an hour or two a day, at most, in my car. My phone is within Bluetooth distance every waking moment. Why in the world would I want my car to be a disjointed experience?

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