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CarPlay Is Additive

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Re: CarPlay Is Additive

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Post by leoedin »

KingMachiavelli wrote: post #253
ipdashc wrote: post #223

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> I am clearly in the minority here but I have driven cars with and without CarPlay and honestly do not care whether a car has it. I'm in the same boat, though with Android Auto or whatever. I'm honestly surprised how many people seem to need CarPlay; a comment or two down there's a stat claiming 79% of buyers wouldn't buy a car without it. Is it that different from the Android implementation? Is there something spec…

In some states you no longer can interact with a phone at all unless mounted. Phone mounts kind of suck or you’ll be in a rental without your nice mount. A 15” screen is easier to read than a small phone bouncing on a mount. If I’m spending $10K on something, I want the Android/iOS experience to be first-class instead of some shitty UI designed be people who I presume don’t drive cars. Cars are otherwise fungible bet…

I recently upgraded to a car with CarPlay, and it's actually a worse user experience than just having my phone on a really solid Brodit phone holder.

For example - when using Google Maps on my phone I can pan around the map to look at nearby places really quickly - maybe while I'm stopped at traffic lights, and then reset back to the navigation. Spotify in CarPlay is really hard to use - much harder than the normal app. Whether it plays the song you want seems to be a game of chance.

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Post by artisinal »

cloin wrote: post #17

I’m not even that old, but I’d really love to argue to simplify the entire auto infotainment stack. I don’t even need a screen. I just bring my own by magnetically attaching my phone that I’ll use to navigate and Bluetooth music or podcasts. If CarPlay becomes the standard that allows me to not pay for whatever crappy tablet UI automakers are pushing, fine. But that doesn’t make CarPlay a necessity, it just makes it…

Many European EVs work like that. Fiat, Opel, Citroen have models without even a radio.

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Post by vincnetas »

grumbelbart2 wrote: post #260
_factor wrote: post #241

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That’s just a line. More like, “We can collect our own data”, or “We can lock them in and collect subscription fees.”

Mostly the second point. They already collect and track you, even with car play. I strongly recommend this CCC talk, where they hacked a Volkswagen database that contained unfiltered, high-accuracy, timestamped locations of a large majority of electric cars from VW group. Based on that they were, for example, able to identify cars owned by members of Germany's security apparatus: where they work, where they live, whe…

good thing that brothels are legal in germany.

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Post by iainmerrick »

MrGilbert wrote: post #213
arikrahman wrote: post #135

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It‘s so annoying. Please, folks: Write your own words with your own quirks! Yes, you aren't a native speaker. Yes, it will read weird. But I prefer weirdness over AI. There is so much noise in text that is written by AI, it hurts my brain.

There are plenty of people who actually do write like that. That’s one reason why LLMs often write like that.

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Post by 63stack »

>The challenge with screen mirroring solutions is that they take over every single pixel in the car, and that’s not the way we see ourselves interacting with our users.

Wassym Bensaid sounds like an incompetent person to be a chief software officer working on cars if he does not understand this is not how carplay works. It's either this, or he's just weaseling out of saying "we want to capture all our users data, and we want to put in rent seeking subscriptions into our cars, which is going to be hard if we enable carplay".

Do not buy cars from companies like this.

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Post by fuzzmz »

stavros wrote: post #287
jackvalentine wrote: post #123

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I bought a BYD that is as close to that as I could. https://esv6hz7yeij.exactdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/b...

But still no pause button, only mute! Just maddening, do they think I only listen to radio?

In my Hyundai pressing the mute button while on Bluetooth/Android Auto pauses playback and mutes. Pressing again resumes playback and volume to previous level.

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Post by leoedin »

MBCook wrote: post #37
fragmede wrote: post #34

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> I have a vehicle that's basically a BMW Why not just name the brand?

It could be a small brand not sold in the US that a large portion of the audience here wouldn’t recognize.

Excluding whatever's going on in China right now, there's just not that many small brands left. You only have to have a passing interest in cars to be aware of pretty much every global car brand - excluding high end supercars, kit car weirdness and whatever mayhem is happening in China.

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Post by empiricus »

stavros wrote: post #287
jackvalentine wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I bought a BYD that is as close to that as I could. https://esv6hz7yeij.exactdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/b...

But still no pause button, only mute! Just maddening, do they think I only listen to radio?

Oh yes the mute button, very useful when trying to pause a podcast :(

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Post by iainmerrick »

IgorPartola wrote: post #217

I am clearly in the minority here but I have driven cars with and without CarPlay and honestly do not care whether a car has it. I use my phone for navigation and mount it such that when I look at it I am not taking my eyes off the road. I find this to be far better than having to look down at the center of my dashboard but CarPlay navigation UI via Google Maps or Waze also works fine so it’s not a huge difference. R…

How do you mount your phone in a rental car? Do you bring your own phone holder with you?
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