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Is the iPhone birth control? Causal evidence from AT&T's 2007-2011 monopoly [pdf]

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Re: Is the iPhone birth control? Causal evidence from AT&T's 2007-2011 monopoly [pdf]

#32

this comes to show that sex is just entertainment and it is being crowded out from all sides

In this modern world where highly effective birth control is cheap and straightforward, we really need to stop equating fertility rates with levels of sexual activity. You can have plenty of sex and not have a child; you can have very little sex and have a substantial number of children.

It's fascinating to me how personal choice never seems to enter into these discussions, even in relatively highly educated, first-world democracies. I actively chose to not have kids -- it was not an accidental by-product of iphones or any other proposed environmental factor.

Re: Is the iPhone birth control? Causal evidence from AT&T's 2007-2011 monopoly [pdf]

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It is "birth control" but in sort of opposite way. People are now much better informed, thanks to internet and devices like iphone. They do not have to relly on state education (that wants more babies) and popular shows like Friends. State founded school is not going to tell you it costs $1200000 to raise baby, or you have 50% chance it will be taken away. It will also push stats made in lab controlled conditions, an…

>it costs $1200000 to raise baby What exactly are you planning to do with all that money anyway? Consume things?

retire? Retiring only on Social Security is pretty tough, and $1.2M would provide like $4K/month income which on top of Social Security may allow for modest lifestyle in some low COL area.

Wrt. the original post i'd agree with GP - better information/education is probably the most powerful birth control.

Re: Is the iPhone birth control? Causal evidence from AT&T's 2007-2011 monopoly [pdf]

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post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>it costs $1200000 to raise baby What exactly are you planning to do with all that money anyway? Consume things?

retire? Retiring only on Social Security is pretty tough, and $1.2M would provide like $4K/month income which on top of Social Security may allow for modest lifestyle in some low COL area. Wrt. the original post i'd agree with GP - better information/education is probably the most powerful birth control.

So consume things

Re: Is the iPhone birth control? Causal evidence from AT&T's 2007-2011 monopoly [pdf]

#37

It is "birth control" but in sort of opposite way. People are now much better informed, thanks to internet and devices like iphone. They do not have to relly on state education (that wants more babies) and popular shows like Friends. State founded school is not going to tell you it costs $1200000 to raise baby, or you have 50% chance it will be taken away. It will also push stats made in lab controlled conditions, an…

>it costs $1200000 to raise baby What exactly are you planning to do with all that money anyway? Consume things?

Nothing? Because I do not have that money!

Re: Is the iPhone birth control? Causal evidence from AT&T's 2007-2011 monopoly [pdf]

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post #36

The funny thing is that there was a study or an article suggesting Apple users got more sex than non Apple users.

Android an even more effective birth control then?

Hard to say. In 2007-2011, during the time of that study, I was using Nokia Symbian phones.

Re: Is the iPhone birth control? Causal evidence from AT&T's 2007-2011 monopoly [pdf]

#39

It is "birth control" but in sort of opposite way. People are now much better informed, thanks to internet and devices like iphone. They do not have to relly on state education (that wants more babies) and popular shows like Friends. State founded school is not going to tell you it costs $1200000 to raise baby, or you have 50% chance it will be taken away. It will also push stats made in lab controlled conditions, an…

You’re just making up numbers

Well, lets buy a house, car.. wife should stay at home for couple of years, education, health care...

Re: Is the iPhone birth control? Causal evidence from AT&T's 2007-2011 monopoly [pdf]

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post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe some people realized that they could wait a few years and still have kids later, and others didn't think about having kids purely though the lens of evolutionary biology.

Before political correctness hit this area, doctors' observations led to classifying any first pregnancy past 25yo as geriatric. Healthcare progresses in some areas, some (like DS) are rigid to socially defined trends.

Last century geriatric pregnancy was one term used for over 35s. It is no longer used, and 25 seems like it is social media bullshit. Apparently the term was created ~1960 for international usage because medical complications after that age were far more risky in the 50s.

Now ~20% of all pregnancies in the US are 35+.

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