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U.S. officials believed Israel was plotting to kill Iranian negotiators

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Re: U.S. officials believed Israel was plotting to kill Iranian negotiators

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It's incredible how badly the US has been dog-walked by both its 'ally' as well as Iran. "America First" brought to you by "The Peace President"[1]. [1] https://xcancel.com/WhiteHouse/status/1976081153699508480

Look what Rütte did. Everybody knows how to play Trump. The whole world now plays "do whatever you want, just take care to make Trump thinking he looks good while doing it, or at least afterwards".

The US isn't an actor anymore on the global stage. It's the playball.

Re: U.S. officials believed Israel was plotting to kill Iranian negotiators

#52
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lmao IRGC isn't rolling on the US, neither is islam in general if that's where you were trying point to that in the silence.

remind me what is their national chant? https://www.iranintl.com/en/202511042838

Once again Israel is making us a legitimate target.

Re: U.S. officials believed Israel was plotting to kill Iranian negotiators

#53
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Are you claiming Jews are more intelligent than non-Jews?

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So you do think Jews are smarter than non-Jews. I welcome your return to reality. It will be well deserved.

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> It's not a conspiracy or anti-Semitic it is if you think the reason is something that's not benign, or if you are keeping track of it and spreading it hoping to foment anger. A hugely disproportionate number of Nobel Prizes have been won by Jews (22% vs 0.2% of total population) and that's with 6 million killed in the holocaust. By Occam's razor, that's a lot of really smart people, and I prefer having smart leader…

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Re: U.S. officials believed Israel was plotting to kill Iranian negotiators

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Their PR machine is amazing in how it's conflated criticism of the Israeli government with anti-Semitism, in a country where religion and state are supposed to be separate (not that we're very good at that, mind you). And they've convinced the world that the Holocaust somehow allows them to perpetrate the same crimes against humanity with impunity. It's incredibly frustration because the only "reasonable" opinion all…

Extreme hatred of Israel can be called antizionism or Israel Derangement Syndrome and aligns well with anti-Western and anti-American views. See how many comments insult both America and Israel here. Antizionism is the intense hatred and focus of one tiny middle Eastern country. It is not normal but it has been normalised. Antizionism is a hate movement.

It's incredibly frustrating because the only "reasonable" opinion we're allowed is full-throated denial of Israel's right to exist and the end of anything Jewish associated with it. There's no allowance for nuance.

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> It's not a conspiracy or anti-Semitic it is if you think the reason is something that's not benign, or if you are keeping track of it and spreading it hoping to foment anger. A hugely disproportionate number of Nobel Prizes have been won by Jews (22% vs 0.2% of total population) and that's with 6 million killed in the holocaust. By Occam's razor, that's a lot of really smart people, and I prefer having smart leader…

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It's important to note that there are very many Jews in the world who are not Zionist and many Jews in Israel who disagree with the Palestinian genocide.

They're not the majority, but there are still a lot of them.

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It's important to note that there are very many Jews in the world who are not Zionist and many Jews in Israel who disagree with the Palestinian genocide. They're not the majority, but there are still a lot of them.

They are a lot but they're a small minority overall.

Re: U.S. officials believed Israel was plotting to kill Iranian negotiators

#59

Launch an unprovoked attack, do it under cover of negotiation, and then attack diplomatic envoys. Belligerence, perfidy, and I don't even know the term for that last part, it's so unheard-of. We have violated rules of warfare that were already old thousands of years ago. At what point do we admit we're the bad guys?

> At what point do we admit we're the bad guys?

I have seen this question online numerous times, but I fail to understand why they expect shame from the shameless, and truth from liars, and respect of law from people who maximize loophole usage.

Re: U.S. officials believed Israel was plotting to kill Iranian negotiators

#60

While the IRGC works out how to eliminate Jews from the planet. “First they come for the Saturday people”

This is an absurd statement. Israel has been killing innocent people in the region since it was created. Iran is right to stand up to them. Bonus points that as an American they're also standing up for me against the Zionists who manipulate my government and steal my money.

Iran is only standing up for their flavor of killing innocent people.
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