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Spain Orders Blacklist of Palantir from Public and Private Companies

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Re: Spain Orders Blacklist of Palantir from Public and Private Companies

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I do agree blocking Palantir is a good move but the Spanish government is doing it for the wrong reason. Spain is storing all sort of data on Chinese servers, including their Intelligence, and Judicial wiretaps. https://www.politico.eu/article/spain-huawei-contract-judici...

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did you hit up wikipedia? the controversies section would be a start. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palantir#Controversies

Re: Spain Orders Blacklist of Palantir from Public and Private Companies

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post #34

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I do agree blocking Palantir is a good move but the Spanish government is doing it for the wrong reason. Spain is storing all sort of data on Chinese servers, including their Intelligence, and Judicial wiretaps. https://www.politico.eu/article/spain-huawei-contract-judici...

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Well the CEO doing a public speaking tour where he sounds like a complete lunatic probably isn't helping...https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4gjkj7975po

Re: Spain Orders Blacklist of Palantir from Public and Private Companies

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Canary Islands are part of Spain and probably unaffected from climate change - we have 19-22°C all year round. If it raises to 25° still pretty livable.

Ok but most of the populated areas of the Canary Islands are a tourist shithole, not somewhere you would want to live.

The two capitals (Santa Cruz and Las Palmas) are pretty good spot to live in. Tourism focuses on the south on both islands. Las Palmas has a beach with a bit touristic activity, but its not drinking tourism like Mallorca or Benidorm. Combined with nice weather all year round overall a greaet place to live. Very walkable cities, you can do without a car. Due to nice weather, you can always go by bike or scooter. Taxis are cheap. Thanks to the tourists, cheap flights all year round, every day, to all major european cities.

But yeah, if you come with kids, factor in private schools. The public system here is broken. As for internet, I pay less than 10€/month for 500Mbit fibre - I couldn't even get that in Germany and if could it would be north of 80€.

Re: Spain Orders Blacklist of Palantir from Public and Private Companies

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As opposed to what? American servers with Isreali backdoors?

How about Spanish servers? I will never understand this helplessness that comes from these European countries. They are choosing to be dependent on foreign powers.

You know, we all thought you were allies. But you tricked us well.

Re: Spain Orders Blacklist of Palantir from Public and Private Companies

#155
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Spain is really going in the right direction, I wonder why no one countries inspire from what they are doing

This seems ridiculously short-sighted and backwards.

Is your assumption that palantir is a good thing?

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> By that standard, though, Boeing, Lockheed Martin, Booz Allen Hamilton, heck even Microsoft are all supporters of "technofascism". certainly! fascism requires industry that cooperates with the state to produce the means of control; these are all companies that do exactly that!

By this logic, Ford and Boeing were contributing to technofascism when they were building tanks and planes for the Allies in WWII. I don't think that most would agree with your understanding of technofascism.

There were fascist elements in what allies were doing to defeat fascism.

Re: Spain Orders Blacklist of Palantir from Public and Private Companies

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> By that standard, though, Boeing, Lockheed Martin, Booz Allen Hamilton, heck even Microsoft are all supporters of "technofascism". certainly! fascism requires industry that cooperates with the state to produce the means of control; these are all companies that do exactly that!

By this logic, Ford and Boeing were contributing to technofascism when they were building tanks and planes for the Allies in WWII. I don't think that most would agree with your understanding of technofascism.

Ford propped Nazis in WW2, maybe that’s why you can’t put your finger on it.

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Which is a political choice - not necessarily a resource problem. Germany, if any, would have the resources to help with integration but for decades most people and politicians were living in denial that people from other countries that came to Germany actually wanted to stay and _live_ there or were living in a world were state debt was seen as the devil's spawn.

> were living in a world were state debt was seen as the devil's spawn. You’re not kidding, it’s literally set in the German constitution: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_balanced_budget_amendme...

Yes, correct, and thanks for the addition. To illustrate this quite emotional approach to state finances, the policy of not increasing the the debt was nicknamed "the black zero" ("die Schwarze Null") which got so infamous that the employees of the German Federal Ministry of Finances posed as a "black zero" in this photo: https://www.bundesfinanzministerium.de/Content/DE/Bilderstre...

Remember, this was at a time when German government bonds were sold with _negative_ interest. So, Germany was refusing to take on any further debt at the time to invest (i.E. in social capital like workers, better immigration, in infrastructure etc. etc.) and is now trying to rectify this partially, at a time where interest rates are close to 3%. Personally, to me as a non-economist, this feels like a missed opportunity of a lifetime.

Re: Spain Orders Blacklist of Palantir from Public and Private Companies

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> I can't figure out what the specific objection to Palantir is. You have to be trolling, a single online search tells you how the company CEO is the textbook definition of technofascism. Take a look at his manifesto if you don’t know

That's ridiculous. All he espouses is that all of this stuff is going to happen and so you might was well do it right (with Palantir).

Without even getting into how shady his actual product is, have you seen that recent he did? He was babbling about alpha, kept babbling about how people were stealing "ontology" (yes i know it's their application layer for agents), I wouldn't trust his business on him alone. I trust even less considering how familiar I am with it.

Re: Spain Orders Blacklist of Palantir from Public and Private Companies

#160
post #34

Spain is really going in the right direction, I wonder why no one countries inspire from what they are doing

I do agree blocking Palantir is a good move but the Spanish government is doing it for the wrong reason. Spain is storing all sort of data on Chinese servers, including their Intelligence, and Judicial wiretaps. https://www.politico.eu/article/spain-huawei-contract-judici...

The Spanish public overwhelmingly trusts China over the US, so from their perspective, this is not necessarily a bad move.

Obviously, the best move would be to keep the data in Europe instead.

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