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Re: Spain Orders Blacklist of Palantir from Public and Private Companies

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Post by dgellow »

sequoia wrote: post #111
fodmap wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I do agree blocking Palantir is a good move but the Spanish government is doing it for the wrong reason. Spain is storing all sort of data on Chinese servers, including their Intelligence, and Judicial wiretaps. https://www.politico.eu/article/spain-huawei-contract-judici...

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> I can't figure out what the specific objection to Palantir is.

You have to be trolling, a single online search tells you how the company CEO is the textbook definition of technofascism. Take a look at his manifesto if you don’t know

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Post by tough »

sequoia wrote: post #107
badgersnake wrote: post #63

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I imagine that’s classified.

People in the comments here are praising the move, so presumably something is public. I've googled but I can't see some specific breach or documented misuse. Is the objection to Palantir strictly political?

There's been a lot of recent scandals going public against the social democratic party ruling on spain now (PSOE) and its previous dirigents. See Zapatero case. leaked by US agencies recently once Spain put some kind of friction to the Rota south spain bases getting involved on anything vs Iran.

The president P. Sanchez, has been clearly antagonizing Trump in these and other intl issues (even if only visible in spain, as he is not that relevant internationally, etc)

But anyways, this seems like deepstate fighting vs current US admin and current Spain admin, one can infer "Palantir" is basically a gag order away from giving the US govt anything it wants, so as an antagonist. to its current admin, it seems smart to avoid having them as critical providers.

why choose china? Makes no sense, but probably the only other big bro Spain can rely on if the US isn't it anymore

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Post by cmxch »

fodmap wrote: post #34
milanito1985 wrote: post #21

Spain is really going in the right direction, I wonder why no one countries inspire from what they are doing

I do agree blocking Palantir is a good move but the Spanish government is doing it for the wrong reason. Spain is storing all sort of data on Chinese servers, including their Intelligence, and Judicial wiretaps. https://www.politico.eu/article/spain-huawei-contract-judici...

Can’t form a COMINTERN if the US is watching.

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Post by [deleted] »

psoebasura wrote: post #94
bpodgursky wrote: post #89

> The firm holds a €16.5 million contract signed in 2023 with the Armed Forces Intelligence Center (CIFAS), which is scheduled to expire this upcoming November. > Military leadership, including the Chiefs of Staff of the Army and Navy, has lobbied Defense Minister Margarita Robles to renew the contract, citing the platform's operational superiority. Palantir wins contracts because they are better at what they do. If…

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Re: Spain Orders Blacklist of Palantir from Public and Private Companies

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Post by josu »

Dibby053 wrote: post #81

They seem to have been granting contracts to manage all kinds of critical data to Huawei's Palantir equivalent lately, so it's probably less about security risks and more about the current source of the bribe money. If they cared about security they would not outsource this kind of stuff to foreign companies. Spain is not Somalia, why not let Indra do it?

>Spain is not Somalia, why not let Indra do it?

The data may be safer with the CCP, at least they won't lose it.

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Post by dgellow »

wickedwiesel wrote: post #66
croes wrote: post #42

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Immigrants but not immigration because there aren’t enough resources to help all the people to integrate.

Which is a political choice - not necessarily a resource problem. Germany, if any, would have the resources to help with integration but for decades most people and politicians were living in denial that people from other countries that came to Germany actually wanted to stay and _live_ there or were living in a world were state debt was seen as the devil's spawn.

> were living in a world were state debt was seen as the devil's spawn.

You’re not kidding, it’s literally set in the German constitution: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_balanced_budget_amendme...

Re: Spain Orders Blacklist of Palantir from Public and Private Companies

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Post by bsjaux628 »

gonzalohm wrote: post #85
qpricjalcbeu wrote: post #62

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https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c1w21gn340xo

At this point, can you tell me one non corrupt government? At least they are doing stuff for the people

Define doing. The government is completely block from legislating since the coalition parties will not approve any law, only those that can help their separatist movements. The national budget hasn't been renewed since 2023, affecting new projects.

What we have is a corrupt president and party he'll bent on remaining as long as possible to not face the polls

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Post by loeber »

omnimus wrote: post #117
loeber wrote: post #73

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You're out of your mind -- and politically radicalized -- if you think that Palantir is on part with the Nazis. And this kind of facile comparison is offensively trivializing those who died in the holocaust.

“offensively trivializing those who died in the Holocaust” - calling someone nazi or fascist is not trivializing Holocaust. These are clear terms and both Palantir and Karp often publish texts with fascist ideological elements and views. Read something they published like Technological republic. They are not hiding it. It's not even some radical view.

You're moving the goalposts. The original poster wrote that Palantir is on par with the Nazis. (Typos notwithstanding.) That's what I'm responding to.

And yes, it is offensive and trivializing to the millions that were murdered to suggest that that their murderers were on the same moral footing as a modern government software consultancy. (The views that you read into some of their executives are, in fact, not equivalent to actions such as exterminating millions of people.)

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Post by pedrogpimenta »

b40d-48b2-979e wrote: post #11
littlecranky67 wrote: post #9

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Canary Islands are part of Spain and probably unaffected from climate change - we have 19-22°C all year round. If it raises to 25° still pretty livable.

and probably unaffected from climate change No place is unaffected.

No, but the island's climate will still be chill.
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