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Spain Orders Blacklist of Palantir from Public and Private Companies

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Re: Spain Orders Blacklist of Palantir from Public and Private Companies

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Spain is really going in the right direction, I wonder why no one countries inspire from what they are doing

I do agree blocking Palantir is a good move but the Spanish government is doing it for the wrong reason. Spain is storing all sort of data on Chinese servers, including their Intelligence, and Judicial wiretaps. https://www.politico.eu/article/spain-huawei-contract-judici...

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Re: Spain Orders Blacklist of Palantir from Public and Private Companies

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Your argument is that the Spanish military is run by the mafia?

Well not hard to see. PSOE is a criminal organization and they happen to lead the government and as a consequence the military.

Re: Spain Orders Blacklist of Palantir from Public and Private Companies

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post #73

I find it unbelievable that the current chief of Nato (Rutte) is basically an extension of Palantir. He is making sure countries are signing contracts with this extreme company that on pair with the Nazi ideology. They would support mass extermination camps. You probably think this is over exaggerated. But no its not. This company is evil.

You're out of your mind -- and politically radicalized -- if you think that Palantir is on part with the Nazis. And this kind of facile comparison is offensively trivializing those who died in the holocaust.

They're already helping run ICE's concentration camps. If Trump asked them for help with extermination camps they'd agree immediately.

Re: Spain Orders Blacklist of Palantir from Public and Private Companies

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post #35

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The made up cases are so many that they deflect each other and the few real ones. The real scandal is the state of our judicial power.

This is pretty common in any country going through a populist phase, they go against the judicial, as is happening in the US

what are you even talking about..

embarrassment of a child

Re: Spain Orders Blacklist of Palantir from Public and Private Companies

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post #38

Unfortunately this order will probably be revoked in 2027/2028, we'll see.

It is possible and this in particular is a decision that I'm sure the US will pressure the government to reverse. However, it's misguided to see the entire world through the US political lens where reversing policy decisions is seen as a free win by the voting base. Spain's current democracy is only about fifty years old and extremism is viewed very negatively so outright undoing is generally less common then gradual undermining.

Re: Spain Orders Blacklist of Palantir from Public and Private Companies

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post #84

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I don't have any insight into what to call it right now, but I thought for several decades after WWII it was still fascist? If anything being a banana republic might not be as as bad as what it used to be

i knew it was a little while after WWII (college history was long, long ago!) but didn't realize it was ... 1975-1977!! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_transition_to_democrac...

I did a whole Wikipedia deep dive on this several months ago. I vaguely remembered hearing how long it took for it to switch back, but the history around it is kind of fascinating; the son of the previous king was groomed to be the successor of Francisco Franco, and I guess he did a good enough job convincing him that he was ideologically in agreement so that the power was passed to him, which he then used to reinstate a republican form of government.

Re: Spain Orders Blacklist of Palantir from Public and Private Companies

#117
post #73

I find it unbelievable that the current chief of Nato (Rutte) is basically an extension of Palantir. He is making sure countries are signing contracts with this extreme company that on pair with the Nazi ideology. They would support mass extermination camps. You probably think this is over exaggerated. But no its not. This company is evil.

You're out of your mind -- and politically radicalized -- if you think that Palantir is on part with the Nazis. And this kind of facile comparison is offensively trivializing those who died in the holocaust.

“offensively trivializing those who died in the Holocaust” - calling someone nazi or fascist is not trivializing Holocaust. These are clear terms and both Palantir and Karp often publish texts with fascist ideological elements and views. Read something they published like Technological republic. They are not hiding it.

It's not even some radical view.

Re: Spain Orders Blacklist of Palantir from Public and Private Companies

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post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I do agree blocking Palantir is a good move but the Spanish government is doing it for the wrong reason. Spain is storing all sort of data on Chinese servers, including their Intelligence, and Judicial wiretaps. https://www.politico.eu/article/spain-huawei-contract-judici...

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I think in general people are a bit distrusting of a tech firm headed by billionaires with deep political ties that sells AI driven surveillance state technology to governments

Re: Spain Orders Blacklist of Palantir from Public and Private Companies

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Your argument is that the Spanish military is run by the mafia?

Well not hard to see. PSOE is a criminal organization and they happen to lead the government and as a consequence the military.

You have this backwards then, the chiefs of staff of the military are career roles, they are petitioning the minister of defense, which is a political position (PSOE), to keep Palantir.
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