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Re: Kimi K2.7 Code is generally available in GitHub Copilot

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Post by blensor »

JSR_FDED wrote: post #61
c7b wrote: post #57

Gotta say, I've lost all interest in cloud-based AI products. Too many cool features and workflows that I was once excited about that I can't or don't use anymore for a variety of reasons (price hikes, subjectively nerfed, disappeared altogether, replaced,...) for me to even remember. It's tiring. I've set up a small rig, mostly settled on Qwen3.6 and I'm slowly adding features myself. It probably can't compete with…

This sounds very appealing. What size Mac mini would I need for that?

I am curious if you implicitly assumed they are Macs or if that's what you are looking for specifically?

Re: Kimi K2.7 Code is generally available in GitHub Copilot

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Post by VortexLain »

arikrahman wrote: post #23
nsoonhui wrote: post #21

I used GitHub Copilot for my VS 2026 development and switched between ChatGPT and Claude. That was before I discovered Claude Code and the Codex app. Copilot was OK for my purposes, and the USD 10 per month fee was enough for my usage. However, last month they introduced a new pricing model ( I know the old pricing was not sustainable), and my USD 10 was exhausted within days. Because of that, I switched to Claude Co…

I had a similar experience moving away from Copilot within Zed. Now using the reasonix harness for Deepseek that makes cache hits almost free. And that's with unsubsidized American providers like Digital Ocean or Cloudflare.

What is the average monthly token price for daily reasonix use?

Re: Kimi K2.7 Code is generally available in GitHub Copilot

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Post by cyanydeez »

c7b wrote: post #57

Gotta say, I've lost all interest in cloud-based AI products. Too many cool features and workflows that I was once excited about that I can't or don't use anymore for a variety of reasons (price hikes, subjectively nerfed, disappeared altogether, replaced,...) for me to even remember. It's tiring. I've set up a small rig, mostly settled on Qwen3.6 and I'm slowly adding features myself. It probably can't compete with…

I never got into any of the AI models because it was clear local first was going to be more valueable, if they were to replace coding tasks.

I tried out a few models and ended up going with either Qwen3-Coder-Next (no think, just do) and Qwen3.6-35B (thinking, w/llamacpp token budget). Created a customized prompt that works fairly well to around ~60k tokens and then is a toss up on whether it's poisoned itself or I've directly steered it into the wrong. When it's clear that's happened, if it's important to continue, ask it to write a doc then start fresh.

I don't kno whow any one cold have witnessed the last 2 decades of American VC funded tech startups and tell themselves, "you know, this will be a reliable technolgy with no hidden problems".

Even a sober technical evaluation is just two steps:

1. You're proposing to build a app on a non-deterministic model.

2. That model is hosted behind a non-deterministic system (model alignment, model guardrails, system context subterfuge, cost/token pricing)

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So you want to build your app and you think you're going to kep up with both #1 and #2?

Re: Kimi K2.7 Code is generally available in GitHub Copilot

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Post by spockz »

arcanemachiner wrote: post #40
toyg wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I tried using Zed but with local models it constantly breaks on tool calls. I wanted to like it but the smell of vibing is just too much.

You using models released this year? I hear this complaint a lot, and it's often due to using an old model which is not as good at tool calling as newer models.

What I noticed is that when the conversation starts the agent is pretty able to read from and write to files. As the conversation continues (and maybe sub agents are spawned) it forgets how to do this, complains, tries to resort to running shell or python code, sometimes it works. Sometimes it asks me to execute the code. If I refuse and point out it worked before than sometimes it remembers how to write, but mostly not and I need to start a new session.

When using Zed with the CoPilot integration I use Claude Opus and never had this issue.

Re: Kimi K2.7 Code is generally available in GitHub Copilot

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Post by lostmsu »

hgoel wrote: post #69
w4yai wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> People have been asking for a way to run the Chinese models from a trusted provider I'm going to be called a chiller again, but at this point I don't care as it is relevant. Synthetic runs their own models for a reasonable price, GLM5.2 & Kimi K2.7-Code included. Referral link : https://synthetic.new/?referral=kwjqga9QYoUgpZV

Being on Copilot means your employer lets you use it at work. It's essentially Copilot's primary value add in the new billing model.

Cloudflare offers Kimi and GLM

Re: Kimi K2.7 Code is generally available in GitHub Copilot

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Post by maykthewessen »

cyanydeez wrote: post #74
c7b wrote: post #57

Gotta say, I've lost all interest in cloud-based AI products. Too many cool features and workflows that I was once excited about that I can't or don't use anymore for a variety of reasons (price hikes, subjectively nerfed, disappeared altogether, replaced,...) for me to even remember. It's tiring. I've set up a small rig, mostly settled on Qwen3.6 and I'm slowly adding features myself. It probably can't compete with…

I never got into any of the AI models because it was clear local first was going to be more valueable, if they were to replace coding tasks. I tried out a few models and ended up going with either Qwen3-Coder-Next (no think, just do) and Qwen3.6-35B (thinking, w/llamacpp token budget). Created a customized prompt that works fairly well to around ~60k tokens and then is a toss up on whether it's poisoned itself or I'v…

Qwen is the Alibaba distilled Anthropic Claude model

So piracy on an by piracy trained ai model..

Re: Kimi K2.7 Code is generally available in GitHub Copilot

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Post by gwerbin »

pantulis wrote: post #63
Kon5ole wrote: post #46

I am a huge fan of Copilot CLI. It just feels so logical and low-friction to use compared to Claude Code. Having the ability to juggle various models at will is really nice too. ("Plan this using Opus 4.6, let GPT 5.4 verify the plan and give feedback before implementing with Sonnet 4.6"). Unfortunately the June pricing change for Copilot forced me personally as well as my entire department at work to switch to Claud…

> I am a huge fan of Copilot CLI. It just feels so logical and low-friction to use compared to Claude Code. Honest question, can you ellaborate? If given the option, I use OpenCode but what do you find in Copilot CLI that makes you prefer it to Claude Code?

Not OP but Copilot CLI is really straightforward, almost minimal in some sense. It's a lot like OpenCode but stripped down.

I also use the Copilot ACP server inside Pycharm and that works decently well too, although it has some annoying bugs, but if you're a Jetbrains user you're used to annoying bugs.

Re: Kimi K2.7 Code is generally available in GitHub Copilot

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Post by [deleted] »

c7b wrote: post #57

Gotta say, I've lost all interest in cloud-based AI products. Too many cool features and workflows that I was once excited about that I can't or don't use anymore for a variety of reasons (price hikes, subjectively nerfed, disappeared altogether, replaced,...) for me to even remember. It's tiring. I've set up a small rig, mostly settled on Qwen3.6 and I'm slowly adding features myself. It probably can't compete with…

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Re: Kimi K2.7 Code is generally available in GitHub Copilot

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Post by unleaded »

c7b wrote: post #57

Gotta say, I've lost all interest in cloud-based AI products. Too many cool features and workflows that I was once excited about that I can't or don't use anymore for a variety of reasons (price hikes, subjectively nerfed, disappeared altogether, replaced,...) for me to even remember. It's tiring. I've set up a small rig, mostly settled on Qwen3.6 and I'm slowly adding features myself. It probably can't compete with…

Qwen3.6-35B-A3B-UD-Q4_K_M runs at about 11 tokens/second on my poor old 1060. Absolutely nuts how far we've come
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